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When the 'actors' are using human shields and actively

Posted on: October 11, 2023 at 11:55:48 CT
Spanky KU
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killing people, you need to kill the 'actor' even if that means the human shield is harmed.

Who is at fault for the death of the innocent human shield? The 'actor' or the person defending themselves from the 'actor'
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All murder is killing. Not all killing is murder. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 11:47:55
     which category does “collateral damage” fall under? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 11:57:30
          War? This isn't difficult. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/11 11:59:29
               and yet you’re struggling here - pickle MU - 10/11 12:08:49
                    What am I struggling with? Or is that… - Outsider MU - 10/11 12:19:38
               I declared war on my annoying neighbor. - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:07:21
                    What did he do to justify you declaring war… - Outsider MU - 10/11 12:20:52
                         her mom hit his mom(nm) - meatiger MU - 10/11 12:51:48
                         He invaded my sovereign space by putting a fence on my - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:31:02
                              Well then killing him for that would be murder… - Outsider MU - 10/11 12:33:14
                                   So, russia's war against the ukraine is unjust?(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:36:37
                                        I would say so. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/11 12:37:23
                                             maybe we are getting somewhere(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:41:53
                         aw jeez - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:24:10
                              Golly gee Beave. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/11 12:24:43
                    Describe his religious headware and then we can rule (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/11 12:13:19
                    look, 7AM is when I have time to mow - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 12:09:57
                         I see you're using your dog as a nonhuman shield - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:11:56
                              ^^ ATF agent (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 12:19:04
                                   whoah whoah whoah. I'm not a homosexual(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:37:01
                                        have you seen hoax in coaches shorts? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 12:45:44
                                        Hear me out first - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:42:44
                              That crosses the line - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:12:52
     your befuddled morals, unfortunately, - pickle MU - 10/11 11:57:03
     Why do you hate Jesus and the 10 commandments? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 11:54:10
          Do you consider killing someone in an act of self defense to - MIZ45 MU - 10/11 12:08:58
               babies aren't attacking anyone - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:09:48
                    true, but the attackers have babies strapped to their chest - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/11 16:14:25
                    "Someone" is a general term. If I specifically meant babies - MIZ45 MU - 10/11 12:16:24
                         Actually, the reality is they aren't going after the people - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:18:21
                              My question is not - MIZ45 MU - 10/11 12:20:25
                                   I did. It's not murder if you break into my house and - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:21:30
                                        Are you limiting self defense to whether or not you are in - MIZ45 MU - 10/11 14:05:32
          Why do you hate Jews? Jesus was jewish you know. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/11 11:57:10
          I don't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 11:55:06
               RE: I don't - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 11:56:17
                    I love people who know some Scripture - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 11:59:47
                         Ironic (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/11 13:07:04
                         ^^says the guy who believes there's a division of the - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:12:33
                              3 categories? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:24:11
                                   Moral, civil, ceremonial - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:25:29
                                        Well, if we are talking about the things of God - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:29:59
                                             a true mainline theologian would say it's 3 categories. - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:34:01
                                                  Moral - it is the second table of the 10 Commandments(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:35:53
                                                       I agree that it would be moral, but not in the 10 - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:41:10
                                                            It is, by Jesus own words, the directly from the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:52:27
                                                                 "Then Smugs asked, who is my neighbor? (I hope it's not - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 13:30:33
                                                                 Does loving your neighbor as yourself mean it is ok - TigerMatt STL - 10/11 13:05:14
                                                                      Not if you don't have authority to do it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 13:11:41
                                                                           Well correct Israel doesn’t have the authority(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/11 13:25:50
                         KJV - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:00:49
                              Yes - easily found. I am pasting the below - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:02:48
                                   And how did the Hebrews define "murder" - Mormad MU - 10/11 12:04:08
                                        He Gone - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:21:52
                                   babies in gaza are being murdered by israelis - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:03:56
                                        If those babies are being purposefully targeted - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:05:56
                                             they are . killing babies is unlawful - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:06:40
                                                  If you have evidence they are targeting babies - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:24:51
                                                       so collateral damage isn't murder - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:29:34
                                                            That is correct - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:31:03
                                                                 that's moving the goalpost. What you should ask is - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:44:29
                                                                      All effort should be taken to deal only with the true threat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:56:52
                                                                           so....deflection. Got it(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 13:40:54
                                                                 they aren't going after the murderers - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:32:13
                                                                      They are attacking know Hamas safeholds - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:33:34
                                                                           You're flailing - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:35:07
                                             RE: If those babies are being purposefully targeted - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:06:16
                                                  That is is a fringe view - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:26:34
                                                       No. you're the typical american cafeteria Christian - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:30:16
                                                            There is a reason God so often led the children if Israel - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:35:07
                                                                 Smugs you're on the wrong side of this - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 12:42:03
     It's been a hamas support group for days here. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/11 11:51:46
          you’re an idiot, RHAY - pickle MU - 10/11 11:58:02
               yes, you truly are that ridiculous. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/11 12:03:24
                    you’re the one with the cavalier attitude to life - pickle MU - 10/11 12:07:57
                         This article describes your approach. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/11 12:17:25
                              it’s ignorance given the US was the instigator - pickle MU - 10/11 12:24:08
          I suggest u take some pepto - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/11 11:52:53
     You just went way over the heads of many... - Outsider MU - 10/11 11:51:01
          he didn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 12:15:39
          I know - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 11:53:28
     A rabbi already explained this - zoomer 99 - 10/11 11:50:29
          welp - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/11 11:53:11
     I don't think that's really the argument - Mormad MU - 10/11 11:50:12
          When the 'actors' are using human shields and actively - Spanky KU - 10/11 11:55:48
               I think that's the crux of the debate, Spanks - Mormad MU - 10/11 12:00:00
                    Collateral damage is often unavoidable when the - Spanky KU - 10/11 13:28:33
                    Human shields violate international law(nm) - Spanky KU - 10/11 12:47:10
                    that never gets old - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 12:00:57
                         I wish I could say the same(nm) - Mormad MU - 10/11 12:01:38
          You just went way over the heads of many... - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 11:52:22
          Oh, it was proclaimed here just yesterday - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 11:52:08
               It's evil. - CulturedDan MU - 10/11 12:03:15
                    I didn't wordsmith anything - you said it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 12:37:46
                         you misquoted him (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 12:43:20
                              Yes, "KILLING PEOPLE IS EVIL" was the quote - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 13:00:38
                                   it's not exactly the same meaning and - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 13:03:44
               try to be honest (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 11:53:29
                    That is 100% honest - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 11:54:22
                         what link? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 11:55:13
                              So you called me dishonest - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/11 11:55:47
                                   that's what I thought (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 10/11 11:56:22




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