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RE: From the BBC fact checkers (noted Trump supporters):

Posted on: October 4, 2023 at 13:31:13 CT
*M* KC
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Doesn’t change or affect anything I’ve been saying.

Lenders and insurers charge interest or premiums based on their assessment of the risk they are assuming. One thing they use to evaluate the risk is information provided by the borrower/insured. If the borrower/insured lies, so as to make the risk appear less than it actually is, that can cause the lender/insurer to charge less. The lender/insurer thereby makes less money.

The lie is the fraud, and the money differential is the damage

I have no idea if the statute does or does not require victims. But it is a fact that if trump lied about his assets, there were victims who suffered damages
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lol trump really needs to stfu at this trial - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/4 12:30:54
     Jesus, its hard to even wrap your head around how - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 12:38:15
          Yes, jg is ! HaHa! - mu4ever DUKE - 10/4 12:40:49
               Fiji thanks you for proving his point - JG A - 10/4 12:44:09
          Imagine? It plays out on this board 24/7 - JG A - 10/4 12:39:42
          yes, I can imagine - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/4 12:39:01
          LOL Trump's idea of a fair trial is to shoot anyone - JG A - 10/4 12:38:43
               Nothing done that you didn’t do with your business - TigerMatt KC - 10/4 12:56:55
                    Liars gonna lie - JG A - 10/4 13:00:37
                         Identify a minnow better than you.(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 10/4 13:04:52
                              LOL still wrong - JG A - 10/4 13:09:39
                    They did more than threaten(nm) - tman MU - 10/4 12:59:16
               He never said that - Sal CMSU - 10/4 12:44:34
                    never as in at least twice - JG A - 10/4 12:54:29
                         So when did he say shoplifters should get shot? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 10/4 13:07:19
                              second youtube - JG A - 10/4 13:10:14
                                   When in that hour and a half did he? Give me a specific time - Sal CMSU - 10/4 13:22:12
               Okay. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/4 12:39:14
                    Just because his guilt is so incredibly obvious - JG A - 10/4 12:41:31
                         This trial shouldn’t exist - Sal CMSU - 10/4 12:45:32
                              If you think there are no victims, then you obviously - *M* KC - 10/4 13:00:41
                                   Which commercial lenders were victimized and how - ummmm MU - 10/4 13:06:04
                                        RE: Which commercial lenders were victimized and how - *M* KC - 10/4 13:10:56
                                             From the BBC fact checkers (noted Trump supporters): - ummmm MU - 10/4 13:18:07
                                                  RE: From the BBC fact checkers (noted Trump supporters): - *M* KC - 10/4 13:31:13
                                   Then why aren’t any victims suing?(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 10/4 13:03:28
                                        RE: Then why aren’t any victims suing?(nm) - *M* KC - 10/4 13:05:03
                                             Thank God we have the govt to look out for hapless - ummmm MU - 10/4 13:07:32
                                                  Thats a different issue - *M* KC - 10/4 13:08:54
                                                       Who are the victims? What is their losses?(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 10/4 13:10:02
                                                            RE: Who are the victims? What is their losses?(nm) - *M* KC - 10/4 13:12:16
                                                                 That doesn't make any sense. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/4 13:15:49
                                                                      It makes perfect sense to someone who knows - *M* KC - 10/4 13:23:32
                                             So you think Commercial Real Estate lenders and insurance - TigerMatt KC - 10/4 13:06:43
                                                  RE: So you think Commercial Real Estate lenders and insurance - *M* KC - 10/4 13:07:41
                         This is an action that wouldn't have been brought against - ummmm MU - 10/4 12:44:09
                              LOL no - JG A - 10/4 12:58:39
                                   There are no victims (nm) - Sal CMSU - 10/4 13:00:06
                              yep (nm) - Sal CMSU - 10/4 12:45:51
          RE: He's not going to get a fair trial. If I were him, I'd do - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/4 12:37:55
               Ree? I think Trump was a terrible president and I don't - ummmm MU - 10/4 12:39:01
                    He may not get a fair shake - JG A - 10/4 12:42:40
                         Not guilty? I'm talking about this New York civil action. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/4 12:45:21
                              I'd say 250 million should be the base fine - JG A - 10/4 12:59:35
                                   Why should that be the base fine?(nm) - ummmm MU - 10/4 13:06:56
                                        cheating should have consequences to fit the crime - JG A - 10/4 13:17:41
                                             This isn't a criminal action. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/4 13:18:43
                                   Is it a conservative position to support theft?(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 10/4 13:01:28
                                        No. Thats why Trump is being prosecuted - JG A - 10/4 13:04:36
                                             But you are supporting state theft.(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 10/4 13:05:20
                                                  LOL no - JG A - 10/4 13:22:28
                    anything not blatantly anti-Trump - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/4 12:40:54
                         well that is largely true - JG A - 10/4 12:43:39
     Forbes take on his wealth - TigerJackSwartz MU - 10/4 12:32:49
          Net worth down 600M which is almost a billion - tman MU - 10/4 12:34:02




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