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Did any of you watch the Newsnation special on the UFO

Posted on: June 12, 2023 at 12:51:48 CT
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whistleblower?

I'd be surprised if more than 2 other posters here did.

https://www.postapocalypticmedia.com/who-vouched-for-grusch-ufo-whistleblower-report/

Heres a few highlights of what he said:
-we have nonhuman craft and are trying to reverse engineer them
-we have at least dead aliens and maybe some live
-we have been hostile to them and they to us
-The government has been lying about it for 90 years
-the government has whacked people to keeo it a secret
--Russia , China probably some others have their own UFOS
-we have agreements with the UFO dudes

Now if you find any of that noteworthy or surprising, well welcome to my level of understanding..........
from 50 years ago.

This issue really touches on every single relevant issue that is in the news today.

1)First and foremost is- WTH actually runds this country.
He touched on that probably some Presidents and most members of Congress are completely unaware of this.
I have brought up the issue that there are levels of secrecy ABOVE what the President has. Well hello
actual Deep State- not the surface level of smaller fiefdoms that most people think of as the Deep State
-the kind that actually calls shots in this country.
The kind that is crimial and unaccounted for.
2) Associated but secret classification in general, much abused in America today

3) lack of Congressional oversight about wild spending.
And you can best believe that those few that know are entirely invested in the scam and why defense and intelligence abuse is so bipartisan in this country

4) climate change. Wheter or not we have figured much of their tech out (and I would surmise we have not)
much application to transportation, energy and general pollution

5) war. huh . what is it good for? absolutely nothing

6) and endless possibilities in regards to medicine , agriculture, commerce, etc.

Now he was careful to say he doesn't know their nature
(and they never touched on if there are more than one kind-there are) but he seemed to lean towards interdimensional as opposed to extraterrestrial.
However whistle blower Bob Lazar (of whom if most of you have ever heard of probably think he was a whack)
said they traveled by bending space and time which to us would appear to be interdimensional anyway. Its physics way beyond my and every other posters understanding
of physics.

My guess that Presidents fall into one of four groups
1) those fully in on the scam and completely agree to keep in secret-my guess : Truman and Herbert Walker Bush
2) those that have been reasoned to stay quite, my guess
Reagan, Obama. By reasoned with I don't mean it is reasonable , I mean they have been somehow convinced its in the nations interest to keep it a lie
3) those who have been threatend if they talk. my guess
Carter
4) those who really are incurious and never cared
W Bush, Trump

There is a part of this that I on one level knew about but never really considered he implications is that of Russia and China having such craft. I guess like most Americans I figured that if we can't figure the tech out neither can they. Which I am sure thus far has been correct - but Holy EFFen Shiite that is stupid and what happens if they do before us???????????????? not good.

As for the UFO dudes they have been here for many thousands of years (at least-probably multiple multiple times before that), the question is will they do anything different if there is general knowledge they are here and whatever the eff they are doing? I can't say.

Congress has "investigated" this several times before and evidently are going to now again, hopefully the
singing and dancing republicans who don't trust the government will do something tangible this time, but I am not optomistic.

Now back to your regularly scheduled partisan bickering about low low low level shiite.
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Did any of you watch the Newsnation special on the UFO - JG MU - 6/12 12:51:48
     no orange people or dog humping. why do you care?(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 6/12 13:54:32
     Trump incurious and didn't care? Two words - MIZ45 MU - 6/12 13:33:16
          OK good point - JG MU - 6/12 13:35:59
     Oh and one other aspect that I was delighted with - JG MU - 6/12 13:31:31
     This tripe has been espoused for 50 years, total crap..nm - tigertix MU - 6/12 13:29:59
          Lets make the bizarre assumption that you are correct - JG MU - 6/12 13:33:22
     I am Groot (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/12 13:26:09
          stop lying - JG MU - 6/12 13:26:54
     Any mention of the Galactic Confederacy? (nm) - Fourth and Long MU - 6/12 13:21:56
          no - JG MU - 6/12 13:22:41
     is that where the trillions they bombed the pentagon to - Th8tnTiger MU - 6/12 13:20:23
          well you are getting warmer - JG MU - 6/12 13:22:25
          šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 6/12 13:21:56
     ā€œagreementsā€? - Ace A - 6/12 13:10:53
          Nobody but the Deep State - JG MU - 6/12 13:13:08
               RE: Nobody but the Deep State - Wildcat KSU - 6/12 13:22:11
     Are any of them named Xenu - TGR84 MU - 6/12 13:10:27
     Why did you watch it? Thought you would be out showing - tcat KC - 6/12 13:09:08
     "interdimensional"? like kang the conqueror? - Th8tnTiger MU - 6/12 13:04:24
          maybe, maybe not - cnk ATL - 6/12 13:42:29
               This idea has also been explored in movies such as - JG MU - 6/12 13:52:03
          shush- adult swim - JG MU - 6/12 13:05:37
     Do you recall the Red Scare that created the UFO/Alien - Spanky KU - 6/12 13:02:38
          Figuring the square root of the coefficient of expansion - Toger STL - 6/12 13:11:19
     I thought Bob Lazar said they used gravity generators - cnk ATL - 6/12 12:59:58
          Well if Bob Lazar said it.............(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 6/12 13:01:47
               doesn't mean Bob Lazar is truthful - cnk ATL - 6/12 13:06:52
                    I have no idea who Bob Lazar is, but would make for a perfec - Diamond Dave MU - 6/12 13:07:57
                         He was the dude in the 90s that claimed to have worked - cnk ATL - 6/12 13:10:04
                              actually came out in 1988 or 1989 - JG MU - 6/12 13:21:49
                                   my bad - cnk ATL - 6/12 13:29:13
                              Ah yes, I remember him now. I called him Bobby Lazar - Diamond Dave MU - 6/12 13:11:54
          yes - JG MU - 6/12 13:00:38
     Did you copy and paste all of that or - Diamond Dave MU - 6/12 12:54:54
          LOL - JG MU - 6/12 12:56:31
               Retard English aside - Diamond Dave MU - 6/12 12:57:36
                    my bad on the two spelling mistakes - JG MU - 6/12 13:01:50




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