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Like I said, it's menacing in New York

Posted on: May 5, 2023 at 19:44:19 CT
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While you may have some idea of what an assault crime looks like, you not know what the term “menacing” means. In New York, you can face criminal charges for making verbal threats—even if you never made physical contact with the alleged victim. Depending on the specifics of the alleged incident, you could face a number of menacing charges, which are considered assaultive offenses under the state’s penal code. Let’s take a look at what menacing offenses are and what steps to take if you have been charged with these assaultive offenses in the New York area.
The Legal Definition of Menacing in New York

According to New York state penal code section 120.15, menacing occurs when a person “intentionally places or attempts to place another person in fear of death, imminent serious physical injury or physical injury.” This definition is similar to assault, except that assault involves actual physical contact. Essentially, menacing in the third degree is verbally or nonverbally indicating your intention to cause harm to another person, even if you do not act on these threats. If you make such threats while displaying a deadly weapon, repeatedly engage in the course of conduct, or violate an order of protection, you could be charged with menacing in the second degree, which carries more significant consequences. Menacing in the first degree, the most serious menacing offense occurs when a person commits the crime of menacing in the second degree and has already been convicted of this same crime within the last ten years.
Heated Arguments Can Trigger Menacing Charges

It is easy to get carried away in the heat of an argument, and people can make threats that they do not intend to fulfill. Unfortunately, such statements can trigger criminal charges, even if you did not ever mean to cause physical harm to the other person. If the accuser decides to report the incident to the authorities, the situation can escalate quickly. Suddenly, a few empty words you said while in an intense emotional state are being used to build a criminal case against you. In menacing cases, the account of the accuser can be sufficient to secure a conviction. If you are found guilty, you could face jail time, a damaged reputation, along with other negative consequences.
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     RE: The subway choker-neither Murderer nor Hero - sarasotatiger MU - 5/6 07:09:51
     We actually agree on something - mu7176grad MU - 5/5 19:37:45
          We must learn to live with schizos terrorizing people - Th8tnTiger MU - 5/5 19:41:13
               RE: We must learn to live with schizos terrorizing people - sarasotatiger MU - 5/6 07:14:34
               so since Tigerboard is a confined space its OK - JG MU - 5/5 19:43:27
                    How is it confined? (nm) - JeffB MU - 5/5 19:47:30
                         The inside of his head probably looks like - Th8tnTiger MU - 5/5 19:48:42
                              Probably smells like the subway too - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/5 20:26:45
                                   LOL lying POS - JG MU - 5/5 20:29:36
                                        You have a lying POS in your head ? - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/5 21:12:47
                         LOL - JG MU - 5/5 19:48:28
               “Mind your own business” - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:43:27
                    How do they know he is a “career criminal” - meatiger MU - 5/5 19:48:37
                         We must wait until he knocks out an old lady - Th8tnTiger MU - 5/5 19:51:23
                              RE: We must wait until he knocks out an old lady - meatiger MU - 5/5 19:53:12
                                   How does one physically threaten another - Sal CMSU - 5/5 20:02:59
                                        I'm going to (fill in the blank) you - JG MU - 5/5 20:05:33
                                             Lol those are still just words - Sal CMSU - 5/5 20:06:09
                                                  naturally you can't distinguish what Reino has said - JG MU - 5/5 20:07:13
                                                       fair enough (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 20:07:57
                                   Thus far- the most threatening thing he said - JG MU - 5/5 19:55:21
                              Spitting on someone is assault. Did he do that?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:52:59
                                   I have already shown you that one doesn’t have to - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:53:50
                                        Did he have a weapon?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:56:21
                                             He doesn’t need one - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:58:07
                                                  Wrong. Threatening with a weapon is a reasonable action to - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 20:01:31
                                                       You are fine with a mentally unbalanced person terrorizing - Th8tnTiger MU - 5/5 20:08:46
                                                            Fine with? You mean do I think someone should choke - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 20:27:19
                                                                 Backing up a bit the guy didn't intentionally choke him - Th8tnTiger MU - 5/5 20:30:18
                                                            OK law talking guy, riddle me this - JG MU - 5/5 20:12:01
                                                       But those are just words I thought? - Sal CMSU - 5/5 20:02:11
                                                  what threat did he make? - JG MU - 5/5 20:00:09
                              Did he show a weapon or SAY - JG MU - 5/5 19:52:25
                              It’s the libertarian way (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:52:00
                                   its the way society operates - JG MU - 5/5 19:53:28
                         I didn’t say they did - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:49:10
          How do you know the latter doesn’t apply here? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:39:50
          You can if you think others are in imminent danger - Calca STL - 5/5 19:39:31
               thats true. what was the imminent danger? - JG MU - 5/5 19:45:49
               So how someone feels is important? (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:40:33
                    Uh yes, most people can act if they feel they are in danger - Calca STL - 5/5 19:41:47
                         Ha! Many here, including myself, argue here daily - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:43:34
                              You are equating political message board posts to the subway - Calca STL - 5/5 19:45:35
                                   Seems like a very woke position (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:48:02
                                        Now you're just typing random sentences(nm) - Calca STL - 5/5 19:49:36
                                        RE: Seems like a very woke position (nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 19:49:23
                                             Indeed(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:51:10
                                        lol what? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:48:38
                                             Feelings are so important. Enough to kill someone over(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:52:13
                                                  I have no idea what you’re rambling about - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:52:49
                                                       You are part of this thread - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:54:29
          Correct(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:38:34
     Marine dude should mind his own business. His rights - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:28:17
          that’s a silly libertarian take (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:30:17
               not really Sal - JG MU - 5/5 19:34:02
                    Lol racism? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:35:02
                         Yes - JG MU - 5/5 19:36:57
                              nothing I said has had anything to do with race (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:38:34
                                   OK I nailed it - JG MU - 5/5 19:39:41
                                        You haven’t nailed anything beyond your typical stupidity - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:41:36
                                             He was yelling that he was hungry - JG MU - 5/5 19:48:08
               By that rationale, every babbling schizophrenic out - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:31:22
                    If they’re threatening people - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:31:56
                         Exactly. No one need suffer injury before self defense - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/5 19:43:50
                              how? specifically - JG MU - 5/5 19:48:58
                                   Jg has a knife threatens to kill me. Makes a stab Attempt - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/5 21:15:13
                                        LOL well your hypothetical (which is in no way - JG MU - 5/5 21:31:25
                         Threats are just words. They aren't infringements. - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:33:25
                              From normal people , not mentally disturbed - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/5 19:44:50
                                   No(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:45:30
                              Of course coos are taught that - meatiger MU - 5/5 19:37:24
                                   Ooops. Meant for Sal below(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 19:38:03
                              Not according to the law - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:35:34
                                   I know what it isnt. Words aren't (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:37:18
                                        You’re confused (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:37:59
                                             Nope. Words are just words. If the dead guy himself - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:39:52
                                                  Do you know the difference between assault and battery? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:40:25
                                                       Yes and both require physical contact (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:41:07
                                                            Like I said, it's menacing in New York - Calca STL - 5/5 19:44:19
                                                                 OK what did he do that fits this definition - JG MU - 5/5 20:02:00
                                                            No they don’t - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:42:04
                                                                 Show me where one can assault someone without - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:45:04
                                                                      Quick google search - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:47:22
                                                                           I didn't say break the law. I said assault or battery. - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:50:20
                                                                                Lol so you don’t know what the f*** you’re talking about (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:51:13
                                                                                     I was quite specific in fact. Words aren't infringements (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:55:38
                                                                                          Even without the law - Sal CMSU - 5/5 20:30:50
                              Actually it's 3rd degree menacing in New York - Calca STL - 5/5 19:35:26
                                   Maybe . From what has been reported - JG MU - 5/5 19:38:35
                                   OK. Then let cops deal with it. Walk away and mind - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:36:40
                                        Neely should have minded his own business - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:37:26
                                             other than acting crazy, how did he threaten anyone? - JG MU - 5/5 19:40:49
                                                  I guess it depends on your feelings (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:42:02
                                        All those cops in the subway train? - Calca STL - 5/5 19:37:08
                                             Not my problem. Dude ****ed up(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:38:08
     He shouldn’t be charged with anything - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:21:30
          "He'll have a chance to prove his innocence" - MIZ45 MU - 5/5 19:31:03
          He was a marine, trained - JG MU - 5/5 19:29:49
          Wrong(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:28:35
               nope it’s 100% correct (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:30:32
     He was threatening people(nm) - Calca STL - 5/5 19:11:31
          So. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:28:57
          He had threatened to kill people in the past. - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/5 19:16:57
               nobody there (presumably) would have known that - JG MU - 5/5 19:25:22
          I understand that part - JG MU - 5/5 19:14:12
               No. Words are just words. Marine dude was in the wrong(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:30:28
                    So wait till he attacked somebody?(nm) - Calca STL - 5/5 19:34:14
                         Yes. That's called assault. I can't assume someone is - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:35:28
                              That’s battery (nm) - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:36:01
                                   So he did neither. Ok(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/5 19:59:52
                    Witnesses say he was being aggressive - Sal CMSU - 5/5 19:32:26
                         I know you routinely ignore facts but - JG MU - 5/5 19:35:24




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