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RE: to tman's point, why the qualifier? and for dangertim

Posted on: February 22, 2023 at 13:19:48 CT
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Largely to capture self-defense in totality. how about:

No one has a right to use force against one who has not initiated force.
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Truths - pickle MU - 2/22 12:39:18
     Ok. (nm) - Outsider MU - 2/22 12:51:16
     AM I BEING DETAINED (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 2/22 12:46:40
     Your fourth statement should simply read - tman MU - 2/22 12:44:49
          for a follower of Christ, that is correct. - dangertim MU - 2/22 13:11:12
          Self defense or defense of a loved one? Nm - hokie VT - 2/22 12:49:38
               read the OP. i’m happy to answer any questions you have (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:56:17
                    to tman's point, why the qualifier? and for dangertim - SwampTiger MU - 2/22 13:04:06
                         RE: to tman's point, why the qualifier? and for dangertim - pickle MU - 2/22 13:12:08
                              RE: to tman's point, why the qualifier? and for dangertim - SwampTiger MU - 2/22 13:14:12
                                   Must you wait to shoot an intruder until he has used - hokie VT - 2/22 13:32:45
                                        The intruder has already used force by trespassing - pickle MU - 2/22 13:43:18
                                        read the second line of Pickle's OP about the - dangertim MU - 2/22 13:42:56
                                        RE: Must you wait to shoot an intruder until he has used - meatiger MU - 2/22 13:36:36
                                        why are you asking me? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/22 13:34:04
                                   RE: to tman's point, why the qualifier? and for dangertim - pickle MU - 2/22 13:19:48
                                        How about no one has the right to use force - tman MU - 2/22 13:37:25
                                             You think - meatiger MU - 2/22 13:39:55
                                                  No but in pickles OP there doesn't need to be - tman MU - 2/22 14:26:41
                                                       I do, if you use force against me (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/22 14:28:03
                                        a minor point, but I suppose it's especially important for - SwampTiger MU - 2/22 13:33:11
                                             Oh, I thought you meant the question was for tim - pickle MU - 2/22 13:39:39
                                                  Swamp is being sore at me for being very disturbed by our - dangertim MU - 2/22 13:44:04
                                                       you're confused (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/22 13:50:44
                                                            disagree(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/22 14:04:36
                                                       it’s like German - pickle MU - 2/22 13:45:56
                              Maybe you should. (nm) - tman MU - 2/22 13:13:14
                         thanks!(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/22 13:10:31
          THAT is a responsibility - not a right(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 12:47:06
               no (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:52:57
               It’s neither (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:51:33
               Ok. Then the fourth bullet can - tman MU - 2/22 12:51:16
     Seems pretty simple in theory - Th8tnTiger MU - 2/22 12:44:09
     and ... with rights come responsibilities (nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 12:42:47
          no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:43:18
               do I not have a responsibility to respect your rights?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 12:46:04
                    no, you have a choice and consequences (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:51:04
                         that "choice" has it's genesis in your responsibility to - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 13:08:58
                              no. There are no responsibilities - pickle MU - 2/22 13:28:09
                              no, if you feel responsible, that's your call, it's not inhe - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 13:17:40
                    No, that would be from your moral code - pickle MU - 2/22 12:50:59
                         I have a responsibility to NOT murder someone - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 13:02:23
                              nobody can 'take away rights'. they may be infringed upon - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 13:18:11
                              no - pickle MU - 2/22 13:14:00
               you have you're religion - I have mine - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 12:44:52
                    most of the time you don’t make any sense - pickle MU - 2/22 13:01:55
                         are there others here that agree with Pickle? - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 13:10:37
                         you take what you believe on faith, that makes it a religion - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 13:05:47
                              faith in what? it's a logical position, based on rational - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 13:23:40
                              that’s incorrect. it’s through the application of logic - pickle MU - 2/22 13:13:10
                                   logic uses emperical evidence - you don't have any - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/22 13:42:23
                                        i exist. I am. (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 13:44:18
     Thanks sovereign citizen(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 2/22 12:40:49
          do you not consider yourself that way? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:51:27




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