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Do we know it has zero chance of gaining any intelligence?

Posted on: February 3, 2023 at 11:32:45 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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The military guy giving the briefing just said it is a surveillance balloon with a surviellance gathering payload.
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The message China is receiving loud and clear - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 10:52:13
     An F-35 would lose a dogfight with a balloon(nm) - El-ahrairah UGA - 2/3 13:19:47
     We need to send Hunter on a peacekeeping mission - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/3 12:39:02
     RE: The message China is receiving loud and clear - sarasotatiger MU - 2/3 12:18:53
     are folks mad china is trying to compete with the US's - SwampTiger MU - 2/3 12:16:11
          How does the US have a monopoly on spying? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:16:50
               NSA and - SwampTiger MU - 2/3 12:17:48
                    You must hate Freedom Fries - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/3 12:19:53
                    Multiple countries spy on the US - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:19:37
                         but nobody does it like the US (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/3 12:23:34
                              Nobody does it better - Panthera MU - 2/3 12:25:42
                                   Good tune - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/3 12:26:56
                                   learn to embed dummy (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/3 12:26:53
                                        I will not - Panthera MU - 2/3 12:37:30
                                             TB sucks on a phone - SwampTiger MU - 2/3 13:15:43
                                                  Tigerboard 3.0 is worth the fee - Ace AU - 2/3 13:56:45
                              I dunno, Russia was pretty clever back in - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:25:14
                         Sure - Panthera MU - 2/3 12:22:12
                              I agree that's a problem - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:25:41
     Why spy on Montana, 4smugs? - Ace AU - 2/3 12:12:30
          you know where our launch site are right, sport - besides - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 12:13:32
               If launch sites are already known (3 in Montana) - Ace AU - 2/3 12:41:13
                    oh, ok - got it. so the location is the only thing folks ne - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 13:29:56
               If we know where the launch sites are - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/3 12:19:19
     They're testing politicians reactions to it - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/3 12:00:45
          They probably know - meatiger MU - 2/3 12:05:39
     sounds like it isn't the first time this has happened - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/3 11:51:36
          More info - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/3 11:54:13
               Thanks (nm) - Panthera MU - 2/3 12:40:22
     so now war is good? - ashtray UF - 2/3 11:48:00
          straw - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 12:13:50
          Popping a balloon is now war? - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/3 11:51:15
          If you can explain to me how shooting down a spy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 11:50:02
               it's an act of war - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:00:24
                    oh get the F out of here with that nonsense. if you believ - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 12:14:25
                         I can see how someone with limited intelligence would - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:19:22
                    If the satelllite was flying low enough to be violating - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:07:19
                         so if a friendly country loses track of an asset - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:08:19
                              another straw man (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 12:14:45
                                   was it antisemitic? - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:17:41
                                        you live in a world of your own making, that's your - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 12:26:04
                                             you live in a world of R vs D - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:27:25
                                                  sorry, where is the R and D here from me? I commented - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 12:28:10
                                                       all over the board - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:30:38
                                                            lol, you are in full blown collapse mode - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/3 12:54:52
                                                                 how so? - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:56:07
                                                                 No. Shut up. NO. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:55:48
                                                                      yes, that's basically been the only arguments you have had - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:57:04
                                                                           Show me one place I have called them our enemy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 13:03:11
                                                                                you are mad Biden didn't have a balloon shot down - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:04:24
                                                                                     If a country is spying on our people illegally - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 13:06:27
                                                                                          Israel does it all the time - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:09:42
                                                                                               When did I ever say that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 13:13:48
                                                                                                    I know. Your logic is stupid - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:14:48
                              I never said that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:09:19
                                   they're most favored nation - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:10:17
                                        oh - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 12:15:02
                                             He keeps going with that one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:16:02
                                                  he's comically abstracted himself (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/3 12:26:36
                                                       I understand making a silly statement - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:27:31
                                                            the only one that needs correcting is you - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:29:19
                                                                 Not being an enemy does not automatically make you friendly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:34:08
                                                                      conducting trade is definitely a friendly act - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:46:49
                                                                           Conducting trade is often a selfish act of gain - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:53:09
                                                                                oh, I forgot. 4Tigs doesn't like China - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:55:40
                                                                                     There are many people in my life who are not my enemies - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:56:43
                                                                                          nations aren't people in your personal life - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:57:36
                                                                                               But the principle is the same - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 13:04:02
                                                                                                    no, not the same at all - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:04:55
                                                                                                         So then you believe anyone who is not your enemy is friendly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 13:06:57
                                                                                                              no, and the fact you would even make that comment - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:10:29
                                        Oh, you poor thing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:11:39
                                             moron, we wouldn't give most favored nation to an unfriendly - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:12:31
                                                  Please, keep digging - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:13:39
                                                       so we don't need Russian oil? - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:15:42
                                                            We sanctioned them for actions they took - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:18:07
                                                                 so actions make a country unfriendly - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:18:40
                                                                      Both can - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:20:41
                                                                           educate me with some source at least - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:22:43
                                                  Who gave them that label? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:12:54
                                                       He believes we consider anyone we do trade with on best - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:14:44
                                                            you think we give favorable economic terms to countries - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:16:15
                                                                 Yes, we do if we believe there is economic benefit - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:19:24
                                                                      like when? - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:19:51
                                                                           China - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:21:16
                                                                                right, a friendly nation - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:22:07
                                                                                     Most favored nation status, not a friendly nation - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:24:41
                                                                                          now you're adding words to back peddle - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:28:44
                                                                                               What? Link explaining how they're not hostile to the US? - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/3 13:03:53
                                                                                                    I won't prove a negative - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:05:32
                                                                                               You claimed they are friendly because they have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:35:19
                                                                                                    they certainly are related - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:47:23
                                                                                                         I never said they were an enemy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 12:54:06
                                                                                                              they are considered friendly by the United States - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:58:12
                                                                                                                   They are not considered friendly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 13:04:49
                                                                                                                        again, because you say so - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:05:59
                                                                                                                             Show me where we have declared them friendly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 13:08:10
                                                                                                                                  show me where we have declared them an enemy (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:12:56
                                                                                                                                       Show me where I have ever claimed they have? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 13:15:16
                                                                                                                                            any country that cooperates with us and furthers - ashtray UF - 2/3 13:19:42
                                                       the United States of America (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:13:25
                                                            So you trust the gov't's label? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:13:59
                                                                 what hostile acts has China taken against the US? (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:16:44
                                                                      That's a deflection - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:17:34
                                                                           by you, it certainly is (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:18:08
                                                                                So we should trust the gov't with this specific - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:20:18
                                                                                     if you don't trust them, then don't give them the status - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:26:52
                                        They aren't friendly (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:11:11
                                             says you (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:11:26
                              lmfao "lost track of an asset" (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:08:45
                                   are you in the CIA or something - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:09:23
                                        If this was a US balloon flying over any other country - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:10:57
                                             funny how you know what I would say without knowing - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:11:49
                                                  Would you call it an act of war? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:12:10
                                                       depends on the intent (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:12:53
                    A better question that you won't answer is what would YOU - hokie VT - 2/3 12:05:28
                         How many US balloons have been sent over China - meatiger MU - 2/3 12:06:53
                              I have no idea, why do you ask. Do you know...? nm - hokie VT - 2/3 12:09:17
                                   The claim was in your post(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/3 12:27:38
                         you ok, snowflake? (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:06:17
                              A wise choice, not to embarrass yourself by trying to answer - hokie VT - 2/3 12:08:31
                                   why would I answer your questions? - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:08:48
                                        a fair question (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/3 12:13:23
                    How is it an act of war? - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:02:57
                         what was the purpose of the drone? - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:05:19
                              they have multiple purposes - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:10:16
                                   c'mon Sal. You know exactly what China's balloon is doing - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:11:13
                                        Was shooting down the US drone an act of war? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:11:43
                                             what was the drone doing? (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:13:10
                                                  Don't know but let's say it just flew off course - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:15:02
                                                       then yes, that would be an act of war (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:17:01
                                                            So why didn't you ever express that - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:18:16
                                                                 never knew about it (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:20:11
                    A balloon isn't a satellite - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/3 12:01:27
          taking it down =/= war (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 11:49:23
               things can escalate pretty quickly - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:01:37
                    China isn't a friendly country - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:04:00
                         they're most favored nation - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:06:54
                              So did they have persmission to fly it in country? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:08:24
                                   mistakes happen, especially with balloons that - ashtray UF - 2/3 12:14:08
                                        What if it wasn't a mistake? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 12:14:31
                         He'd call it the US's fault, of course (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/3 12:04:47
     What if president eleven puts dozens or scores of spy baloon - hokie VT - 2/3 11:38:56
     Of course. He's too stupid to get the obvious, somewhat - GA Tiger MU - 2/3 11:38:40
          Using the OP logic, we should destroy all Chinese and - Spanky KU - 2/3 11:43:09
               How do you know that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 11:48:32
                    Neocon'd it. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/3 11:50:40
               Not even close to the same thing (nm) - tman MU - 2/3 11:45:29
     What should he do about Taiwan?(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/3 11:32:45
          He's already given up the goods there - Sal CMSU - 2/3 11:37:59
          not say that we'll defend it - dangertim MU - 2/3 11:34:33
               thanks for actually answering the question(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/3 11:49:08
          He has said he would move to defend it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 11:33:38
     Why shoot it down if it has zero chance of gaining - Spanky KU - 2/3 11:20:35
          to wave our dong at China (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/3 11:38:28
          Do we know it has zero chance of gaining any intelligence? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 11:32:45
               The reports are that it is not passing over anyplace - Spanky KU - 2/3 11:40:32
                    It's passed over multiple military facilities - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/3 11:47:49
                         link?(nm) - Spanky KU - 2/3 12:24:00
                    It is going to pass over multiple military installations - tman MU - 2/3 11:46:58
                         "the reports are" - Spanky KU - 2/3 12:08:25
     Hunter will lose business if the balloon is shot down - mu7176grad MU - 2/3 10:59:49
     lol just saw where the biden admin said it will continue - Th8tnTiger MU - 2/3 10:57:41
          Not to worry though, Blinken isn't going to China - Sal CMSU - 2/3 11:06:44
     Biden really is a ball-less ninny.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/3 10:54:49
          Biden is a liberal - one and the same(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/3 11:09:47




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