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I don’t think the portal has really changed the timeline

Posted on: December 19, 2022 at 14:34:43 CT

wu-tangtiger MU

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If 3-4 years.

But it’s possible that it moves it up a little.

What I do think has changed is how good/bad the first year or 2 of that rebuild is. Mizzou for example has jumped from 137 to 59 in KenPom. In the past that improvement has traditionally been a 30-40 spot jump.

Edited by wu-tangtiger at 14:38:18 on 12/19/22

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Does .500 in SEC play make the tournament?(nm) - ZouMiz STL - 12/19 08:49:53

Yes - HissingPrigs77 MU - 12/20 10:29:01

Would really depend on how strong the SEC turns out over- - alwaysright MU - 12/19 18:14:48

Yes, especially considering road wins vs - Spartus MWSC - 12/19 17:00:37

UCF was not a road win. Neutral site game. - Beez90 MU - 12/19 17:13:43

and so are most NCAA tourney games....nm - tigertix MU - 12/19 17:45:02

‘Road’ vs. ‘neutral’ can make a difference in quad - Lovely Rita STL - 12/19 19:23:58

Kinda sort of. nm - Spartus MWSC - 12/19 17:18:03

Depends on the wins(nm) - Calca STL - 12/19 16:26:13

RE: Does .500 in SEC play make the tournament?(nm) - humble1 MU - 12/19 14:46:43

The SEC isn't exactly a "basketball league", but I would be - zounami MU - 12/19 15:03:47

Actually the SEC may be the strongest conference in the - Spartus MWSC - 12/19 17:14:47

RE: The SEC isn't exactly a "basketball league", but I would be - JasmineNicole USA - 12/19 15:11:18

how does his thinking impact the AD? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/19 18:42:53

It's the goal but it's not realistic to win SEC in yr one(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 15:12:57

no one's talking about winning the SEC (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 15:16:51

You might want to read her post - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 15:21:09

Big picture vs this season. There’s a difference - alwaysright MU - 12/19 18:15:55

That is the goal... doesn't mean it's the expectation. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 15:28:19

What do you think every year means? - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 15:30:09

97* - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 15:10:27

Killshot! (nm) - smoke MU - 12/19 15:49:11

A successful season would be winning a 1st round NIT game. - muwinn MU - 12/19 12:48:18

RE: A successful season would be winning a 1st round NIT game. - JasmineNicole USA - 12/19 15:15:31

Do you think we can win the SEC this year?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 15:21:50

winning the NIT would be really great for the program(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 12:52:33

RE: winning the NIT would be really great for the program(nm) - JasmineNicole USA - 12/19 15:04:01

In Year 1 of a new coaching era with a roster mainly - dbryantMU13 MU - 12/20 17:45:44

The quality of the tournament has really been enhanced - Genco98 MU - 12/19 14:00:23

It's more about Q1 and Q2 wins(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 12:09:17

That's why playing a weak non-con schedule is retarded. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 12:27:38

RE: That's why playing a weak non-con schedule is retarded. (nm) - smoke MU - 12/19 14:37:50

Don’t use that word Sue - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/19 14:26:52

I'm sorry it hurt your feelings. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 14:29:38

Thanks retard(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/19 14:53:30

you're triggered... and projecting (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 15:00:16

U wish little weasel man - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/19 15:06:00

weird (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 15:08:38

RE: That's why playing a weak non-con schedule is retarded. (nm) - Radical Tiger MU - 12/19 12:52:54

I can understand the rationale though - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 12:51:14

This team probably isn’t a tournament team - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 12:30:50

we should schedule *beatable* Q1 opponents... - zounami MU - 12/19 12:38:10

Are you trying to build a program or not? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 12:40:10

a weak non-con also fails to prepare the team for tougher - zounami MU - 12/19 12:44:40

Yes but it also lets a team with a ton of new players gel - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 12:52:08

we saw how unprepared the team was against battle-tested - zounami MU - 12/19 12:56:44

Only you thought we'd beat Kansas(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 12:57:19

Did you think we'd lose by 30? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 12:57:33

What was your prediction?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 12:57:54

I thought we'd play them as tough as Southern Utah did. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 12:59:57

What about Tennessee?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:01:43

Tennessee crushed KU. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:02:27

Yes and?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:02:56

you asked about Tennessee, so I answered (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:03:34

What about Indiana? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 13:01:30

So you think we're as good as Duke? - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:01:30

Southern UT lost by more than Duke. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:02:54

lost by 6 and Duke by 5. HUGE difference. lol(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:03:16

and neither team played KU at home, like we did (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:04:44

I'll put you down for Missouri=Duke(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:06:32

your reading comprehension is poor (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:07:24

and Sourhern Utah=Duke(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:12:39

your spelling is poor, too (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 14:04:46

So is your comma usage(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 14:17:53

a grade-school level comeback to match his spelling (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 14:23:20

"your reading comprehension is poor"(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 14:38:51

The irony. It's like you're trying to prove my point. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 15:02:32

97(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 15:10:06

Mizzou’s sos is fine - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 12:47:20

our non-con SoS will be propped up by outliers... - zounami MU - 12/19 12:55:14

Mississippi State has played as many quad 4 - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 12:58:32

Multi-year process? The portal allows a coach to rebuild - zounami MU - 12/19 12:59:29

The roster was rebuilt immediately - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 13:03:49

correct... in basketball, the portal allows a coach to - zounami MU - 12/19 13:05:36

So who’s done it - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 13:10:17

hell, Cuonzo did it *without* the portal (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:11:40

Seems the claim that overnight rebuilds is off. - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 13:25:04

we'll have to agree to disagree (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 14:07:41

I named 2 guys that have done it - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 14:19:59

you already agreed that "it can be done"... what I disagree - zounami MU - 12/19 14:24:53

I don’t think the portal has really changed the timeline - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 14:34:43

Will a confident team have best chance of winning in SEC? - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 12:56:48

How did that "confidence" pan out against Kansas? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 12:57:20

That's idiotic because kansas will beat all but a few teams - Mormad MU - 12/19 12:59:06

So you expected us to beat Kansas?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 12:57:44

I thought it would be close. KU barely beat Southern-UT and - zounami MU - 12/19 12:58:37

You're the only one(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:00:14

What was your prediction for the margin of loss? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:01:09

I didn't think it would be close. And - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:02:12

so, you thought we'd lose by 30... at home? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:03:11

I figured it wouldn't be close. (nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:06:08

so, you predicted a ~30 point home loss? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 13:06:41

I was closer than you(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 13:13:59

you're great at predicting the past (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 14:07:11

Says Mrs 'KU is very beatable" - LamarFrazier MU - 12/19 15:31:02

with our non-con schedule, probably not (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 11:38:24

Reminder zounami doesn't like black people (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 12/19 11:58:50

i.e., if your best non-con win is Central FL (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 11:40:18

Could be Illinois or Iowa State - Hickeytime MU

- 12/19 11:55:35

All depends on who you beat - tsutiger57 MU - 12/19 11:17:03

indeed... going 6-7 against a quality non-con schedule... - zounami MU - 12/19 12:42:30

Neither of those would get this team in the tournament - Hickeytime MU

- 12/19 12:48:25

The main criteria is # of Q1 wins. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/19 12:56:22

Absolutely. SEC is loaded this year. (nm) - tiger4real MU - 12/19 10:59:10

Probably not, but who knows - Mormad MU - 12/19 09:49:30

Traditionally, no - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 08:52:29

and the committee tends to punish teams with extremely - zounami MU - 12/19 11:39:48

In general SEC teams have needed to be above .500 - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 11:55:46

2018 had an outlier you failed to include - longtimereader MU - 12/19 15:18:22

Good find. I was just looking at .500 - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/19 16:35:05

I think it depends on the quality of OOC victories - Genco98 MU - 12/19 08:51:16

Think a win against Illinois and Iowa st. would help(nm) - itznotwillis MU - 12/19 08:51:09

RE: Think a win against Illinois and Iowa st. would help(nm) - SPD MU - 12/19 09:23:35

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