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Fraud is not actionable unless there is something of value

Posted on: October 12, 2022 at 15:52:00 CT
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that is received in reliance on the fraud. So, it's a property (not a speech) issue.

Lying, alone, is not actionable.
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Quite the Alex Jones verdict — over $1B in damages - mu7176grad MU - 10/12 14:54:40
     Alex Jones: Who is he, what did he do and why does it - BH O'bonga MU - 10/12 16:04:45
          A lying Russian propagandist will even lie about this. - TexJohnson MU - 10/12 16:15:55
     And once again the only ones that prosper are attorneys, - MU-TULSA MU - 10/12 15:41:07
          Assuming it's not dischargeable in bankruptcy - Lovely Rita STL - 10/12 15:51:25
     lol that is cartoonish and will no doubt be lessened on - Th8tnTiger MU - 10/12 15:10:45
     so much for free speech (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 14:57:00
          Do I have the freedom to tell people to kill another? - TexJohnson MU - 10/12 16:18:39
               yes. no. no. no. (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 16:28:02
               What demonic acts did Jones mamipulate anyone - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 16:19:52
                    Google it. - TexJohnson MU - 10/12 16:26:27
                         I did and it appears that you have lied again. - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 16:27:48
                              Sandy Hook parents received death threats moron not moran - TexJohnson MU - 10/12 16:33:15
                                   Someone actually showed up to murder - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 16:34:23
                                        Whataboutism . He was crazy and called the cops on himself - TexJohnson MU - 10/12 16:40:03
                                             BS This is you just - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 16:50:12
                                                  It's not BS and you're more of a partisan hack than me - TexJohnson MU - 10/12 16:53:51
                                                       The guy that showed up with a gun was not a - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 16:56:45
                                                            Did he even come close to confronting Kavenaugh? No. - TexJohnson MU - 10/12 17:00:53
                                                                 What does that matter?? - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 17:11:06
                                                       you’re a ****ty DH troll - pickle MU - 10/12 16:56:07
                                                            I'm Moj, - TexJohnson MU - 10/12 17:05:32
                    being mean (and wrong) on the internet. - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 16:22:59
          billion dollar hate/lie speech - JG A - 10/12 15:52:53
               Don't you just love how muh gubmint can take - MIZ45 MU - 10/12 16:09:49
                    Your wing of the liberal party controls - JG A - 10/12 16:54:16
                         I'm not cheering this like you are (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 10/12 17:27:50
                              Link? - JG A - 10/12 17:31:52
               ^conservative(nm) - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:59:10
                    so you think they should have awarded more - JG A - 10/12 16:06:05
                         Bush should have fined you millions for your false - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 16:16:54
                              LOL truth is an absolute defense - JG A - 10/12 16:38:54
                                   You, of all people, should be thankful for free speech. (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 10/12 17:30:17
                         That doesn't make sense (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 10/12 16:10:46
                              well ypu are functionally illiterate(nm) - JG A - 10/12 16:37:12
                                   I'm not sure *you* should be criticizing anyone's - MIZ45 MU - 10/12 17:29:30
          For once we agree - mu7176grad MU - 10/12 15:01:59
               You're a friend of Alex Jones? (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/12 15:07:09
                    I'd say he's a friend of free speech. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/12 15:16:09
                         i wouldn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 15:17:30
                         I was joking around about his apparent typo... - JeffB MU - 10/12 15:17:09
          He was free to speak - Mormad MU - 10/12 14:58:32
               If there are consequences, via govt laws and courts, for - ummmm MU - 10/12 15:09:29
                    There is free speech - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/12 15:22:03
                         So Chuck Shumer should be charged with - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 16:01:58
                         again, that is not an example of free speech - pickle MU - 10/12 15:33:15
                              MYOB - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/12 15:34:06
                                   "I didn't know what I was talking about" - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:37:05
                                        Switch handles - JayHoaxH8r MU - 10/12 15:38:36
                                             another deflection. - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:39:29
               Tort action having nothing to do with the 1st Amendment - Ace A - 10/12 15:06:28
                    no one here is talking 1st amendment, DOC - pickle MU - 10/12 15:16:03
                         Then it is your opinion and nothing else. - Ace A - 10/12 15:19:58
                              i haven’t stated an opinion - pickle MU - 10/12 15:20:35
                                   your opinion - Ace A - 10/12 15:41:53
                                        that wasn’t opinion (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 15:45:35
                                             therein lies your problem and argumentative attitude with - Ace A - 10/12 15:51:12
                                                  Good grief 🤦‍♂️ (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 10/12 16:13:38
                                   We've been stage 4 for a while(nm) - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:37:51
               I get what you're trying to say... - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:00:19
               speech does not infringe on anyone’s rights - pickle MU - 10/12 14:59:55
                    How absolute is that statement? - gmmm98 MU - 10/12 15:11:28
                         Fraud is not actionable unless there is something of value - ummmm MU - 10/12 15:52:00
                              False representations have nothing to do with speech at all. - gmmm98 MU - 10/12 16:37:38
                                   did you read your post? - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 16:41:20
                         it’s absolute - pickle MU - 10/12 15:13:51
                              I'm not following the physical component. - gmmm98 MU - 10/12 15:22:31
                                   fraud includes infringement on property(nm) - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:38:22
                                   payment and the taking of money, for example - pickle MU - 10/12 15:32:20
                              All fraud has a physical component to it? (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/12 15:18:13
                                   do you get frauded out of your feelings?(nm) - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:38:38
                                        pickle cheered when anonymous published the private info - JeffB MU - 10/12 15:59:04
                                             also, why did you change the subject - pickle MU - 10/12 17:05:12
                                                  He was responding to my response to you. Your - JeffB MU - 10/12 17:22:46
                                                       also, stop lying, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 17:32:36
                                                            Stop projecting pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/12 18:48:18
                                                                 you’re lying, Jeff - pickle MU - 10/12 19:07:25
                                                                      You are the one being dishonest here pickle, as usual, - JeffB MU - 10/12 19:56:43
                                                                           no, Jeff - pickle MU - 10/12 20:03:06
                                                                                You are quite the liar pickle. You should be embarrassed. (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/12 22:43:01
                                                       and you ignored the question - pickle MU - 10/12 17:31:01
                                                            It was a rhetorical question to make a point pickle. - JeffB MU - 10/12 19:05:16
                                                                 You simply can’t be honest (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 19:08:26
                                                                      You are projecting again pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/12 19:53:24
                                             perhaps you’re stupid and projecting - pickle MU - 10/12 16:13:21
                                                  What did you mean then when you replied 'good for them' - JeffB MU - 10/12 16:21:25
                                                       are you a boomer, Jeff? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 16:26:59
                                                            So are you ready for an honest dialogue yet? - JeffB MU - 10/12 16:35:24
                                                                 stop being dishonest, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 16:38:59
                                                                      You obviously are not. (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/12 17:07:28
                                                                           just stop being dishonest - pickle MU - 10/12 17:08:37
                                                                                So you are going to dishonestly avoid an honest discussion. - JeffB MU - 10/12 19:54:38
                                                            Can you explain what someones - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 16:29:16
                                                                 it has nothing to do with someone’s views - pickle MU - 10/12 16:36:58
                                                                      How is it relevant to any - GODZILLA MU - 10/12 16:49:10
                                                                           it isn’t. i just said it isn’t - pickle MU - 10/12 16:56:47
                                                                 It is all he has. His ideas won't hold up to scrutiny, which - JeffB MU - 10/12 16:34:23
                                                                      no, Jeff. i’ve told you why i don’t discuss topics with you - pickle MU - 10/12 16:38:30
                                                                           Of course you have. You were liar then & you're still a liar - JeffB MU - 10/12 22:43:54
                    RE: speech does not infringe on anyone’s rights - namres MU - 10/12 15:08:24
                         please keep your violent fantasies to yourself (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 15:14:56
                         To compensate, not set up for life, nor chill free speech of - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/12 15:14:29
                         so if speech hurts someone's feelings, then it should't - ashtray UF - 10/12 15:11:03
                              This is their entire platform(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 10/12 15:41:24
                              And BTW, this is a civil suit, government is not punishing - namres MU - 10/12 15:16:05
                                   a civil suit based on what and held where? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 15:17:04
                                        obviously not a government court(nm) - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:40:20
                                             obviously not. maybe he’s thinking about it (nm) - pickle MU - 10/12 15:46:17
                                                  "thinking" - Experts on TV MU - 10/12 15:47:41




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