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This would be a wise stopping pt for the Ukraine Russia war

Posted on: September 30, 2022 at 18:29:03 CT
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At the risk of upsetting the entire internet, the annexation of those four Ukrainian territories seems like a great time to end this war to me. Does anyone honestly believe a significant percentage of the people who live there want a massive counteroffensive on their doorstep? I don’t.

The west knowingly provoked this war, the thing experts warned for years would happen did happen, and now Ukraine lost some territory. Rather than risking millions or billions of lives escalating this conflict, it seems sensible to draw a line under it. You can yell “Putin bad!” and “International law!” all you want, but it’s just a cold hard fact that after the annexation the US/NATO/Ukraine tandem is going to be presented with the choice of either ending the bloodshed or massively, massively escalating it. Pretty easy choice, in my opinion.


There are two kinds of people who want peace in Ukraine: those who want it to come now via diplomacy, negotiation and compromise, and those who want it to come years from now after pouring millions of lives into driving Russia out of every last inch of Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders. You either support a negotiated settlement right now or you support an extremely long, protracted proxy war that risks nuclear annihilation, ends up costing millions of lives and trillions of dollars, and has no guarantee of success. And the latter position is what’s being planned for:


Of course I don’t actually believe the fighting will end in this way at this time; there’s too much riding on keeping the bloodshed going. I’m just highlighting the fairly obvious fact that it could end now, and should end now.
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This would be a wise stopping pt for the Ukraine Russia war - El-ahrairah BAMA - 9/30 18:29:03
     the war can end at any time - Ferg MU - 9/30 18:56:24
          Yep, but Biden isn't backing up.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 9/30 19:05:46
               LOL…what a dummy you are(nm) - Gyro STL - 9/30 20:27:37
               Biden can't end the war - Ferg MU - 9/30 19:08:55
                    He can stop supplying Ukraine - Sal CMSU - 10/1 09:50:34
                         it's not a waste of tax dollars - Ferg MU - 10/1 10:21:01
                    Sure he could. If the US called for a negotiated settlement - JeffB MU - 9/30 22:14:24
     This alone tells me how incredibly ignorant you are. - GA Tiger MU - 9/30 18:46:23
          Overthrowing the elected pro-Russian gov't in - MUTGR OU - 9/30 22:09:51
               A lot of bull shlt there. How about starting wi th - GA Tiger MU - 10/1 05:58:00
               You forgot about expanding NATO despite Reagan's promises - JeffB MU - 9/30 22:22:46
                    RE: You forgot about expanding NATO despite Reagan's promises - MUTGR OU - 9/30 22:27:18
          It’s only been discussed here for eight years - pickle MU - 9/30 19:29:50
          The Russians Warned Us For Years You Insufferable Nitwit - Catturd USMC - 9/30 19:21:12
               That manlet Putin isn't going to finish anything - Ferg MU - 9/30 19:25:59
                    Ill Remember That When Brussels And Ramstein AFB Git - Catturd USMC - 9/30 19:30:33
                         With their rusty-a$$ military - JimD MU - 9/30 20:54:31
                              Mach 12 Baby, That's Over 9000MPH Genius - Catturd USMC - 9/30 21:13:06
                         it doesn't surprise me that - Ferg MU - 9/30 19:34:35
                              And I Am Not Surprised That Warmongering Whores Like You - Catturd USMC - 9/30 19:47:56
                                   sure, I'm on the side of civilized democracies - Ferg MU - 9/30 19:55:32
                                        The Good Guys That Have Been Shelling And Killing Civilians - Catturd USMC - 9/30 20:00:30
                                             you're an itdiot that consumes Russian propaganda - Ferg MU - 9/30 20:02:54
                                                  You Caint Fix It But You Sure Can Show It, Xpress It And - Catturd USMC - 9/30 20:05:35
          The US provoked it.. - TigerMatt STL - 9/30 19:05:22
               Well, I learned a couple of things there. - GA Tiger MU - 9/30 19:21:47
                    More Than You Lerned At Westpoint Apparently - Catturd USMC - 9/30 19:24:50
          RE: This alone tells me how incredibly ignorant you are. - El-ahrairah BAMA - 9/30 18:56:01
               Yes, there were warnings, as I see, but that - GA Tiger MU - 9/30 19:11:53
                    you’re an idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 9/30 19:30:45
                    They Are Only An Enemy Because We Make Them One - Catturd USMC - 9/30 19:23:46




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