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You have to reject the objective facts and the science to
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come to such conclusions.
Logic tells us that it is morally wrong to intentionally kill a being if we are not absolutely certain that it is a human being.
Do you agree with that?
A hunter who sees bushes rustling cannot shoot into the bushes saying "I don't think that's a person in there." If he did and killed it and:
1. It was a human and he really knew that it was, he would be guilty of murder.
2. It was a human and he just thought that it wasn't he would be guilty of manslaughter.
3. It wasn't a human but he wasn't sure whether it was or not, he would be guilty of criminal negligence.
4. It wasn't a human and he absolutely knew that it wasn't, then no crime was committed... assuming he didn't violate some hunting law.
In our instance, we KNOW that the fetus is in fact a human being. That being has a human mother and a human father, so that being has to be a human being. In fact, doctors and scientists have dissected those children and sold their body parts to hospitals and research organizations. One of the lists of body parts for sale was read into the congressional record. They sold human brains, human hearts, left arms, right arms, legs, livers, eyeballs, kidneys and so on. No government agency ever has or ever will charge them with false advertising saying that those weren't really human beings that they were dissecting and selling.
But the real clincher is the universal consensus of the embryologists who study such things that in fact these are human beings from the moment of conception. An ontological change happens at that point and at no other point in that human being's existence. The sperm with 23 chromosomes and the oocyte (egg) with 23 chromosomes merge into a new being with 46 chromosomes. That being, with a human father and a human mother will grow and mature into a full adult, progressing through the entire life cycle of human beings if given a healthy environment, food and nutrition. You have had the same DNA and the same 46 chromosomes in every cell in your body (other than the specialized gametes for reproduction, your sperm cells) from your very beginning.
https://prolifepages.wordpress.com/when-does-life-begin-senate-judiciary-subcommittee-hearings-april-1981/
When does human life begin? – Senate Judiciary Subcommittee Hearings April 1981
* In 1981 (April 23-24) a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee held hearings on the very question before us here: When does human life begin? Appearing to speak on behalf of the scientific community was a group of internationally-known geneticists and biologists who had the same story to tell, namely, that human life begins at conception – and they told their story with a profound absence of opposing testimony.
Dr. Micheline M. Mathews-Roth, Harvard medical School, gave confirming testimony, supported by references from over 20 embryology and other medical textbooks that human life began at conception.
* “Father of Modern Genetics” Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: “To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion … it is plain experimental evidence.”
* Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, added: “By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”
* Dr. McCarthy de Mere, medical doctor and law professor, University of Tennessee, testified: “The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception.”
* Dr. Alfred Bongiovanni, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, concluded, “I am no more prepared to say that these early stages represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty … is not a human being.”
* Dr. Richard V. Jaynes: “To say that the beginning of human life cannot be determined scientifically is utterly ridiculous.”
* Dr. Landrum Shettles, sometimes called the “Father of In Vitro Fertilization” notes, “Conception confers life and makes that life one of a kind.” And on the Supreme Court ruling _Roe v. Wade_, “To deny a truth [about when life begins] should not be made a basis for legalizing abortion.”
* Professor Eugene Diamond: “…either the justices were fed a backwoods biology or they were pretending ignorance about a scientific certainty.”
Logic tells us that it is morally wrong to intentionally kill a being if we are not absolutely certain that it is a human being.
Do you agree with that?
A hunter who sees bushes rustling cannot shoot into the bushes saying "I don't think that's a person in there." If he did and killed it and:
1. It was a human and he really knew that it was, he would be guilty of murder.
2. It was a human and he just thought that it wasn't he would be guilty of manslaughter.
3. It wasn't a human but he wasn't sure whether it was or not, he would be guilty of criminal negligence.
4. It wasn't a human and he absolutely knew that it wasn't, then no crime was committed... assuming he didn't violate some hunting law.
In our instance, we KNOW that the fetus is in fact a human being. That being has a human mother and a human father, so that being has to be a human being. In fact, doctors and scientists have dissected those children and sold their body parts to hospitals and research organizations. One of the lists of body parts for sale was read into the congressional record. They sold human brains, human hearts, left arms, right arms, legs, livers, eyeballs, kidneys and so on. No government agency ever has or ever will charge them with false advertising saying that those weren't really human beings that they were dissecting and selling.
But the real clincher is the universal consensus of the embryologists who study such things that in fact these are human beings from the moment of conception. An ontological change happens at that point and at no other point in that human being's existence. The sperm with 23 chromosomes and the oocyte (egg) with 23 chromosomes merge into a new being with 46 chromosomes. That being, with a human father and a human mother will grow and mature into a full adult, progressing through the entire life cycle of human beings if given a healthy environment, food and nutrition. You have had the same DNA and the same 46 chromosomes in every cell in your body (other than the specialized gametes for reproduction, your sperm cells) from your very beginning.
https://prolifepages.wordpress.com/when-does-life-begin-senate-judiciary-subcommittee-hearings-april-1981/
When does human life begin? – Senate Judiciary Subcommittee Hearings April 1981
* In 1981 (April 23-24) a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee held hearings on the very question before us here: When does human life begin? Appearing to speak on behalf of the scientific community was a group of internationally-known geneticists and biologists who had the same story to tell, namely, that human life begins at conception – and they told their story with a profound absence of opposing testimony.
Dr. Micheline M. Mathews-Roth, Harvard medical School, gave confirming testimony, supported by references from over 20 embryology and other medical textbooks that human life began at conception.
* “Father of Modern Genetics” Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: “To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion … it is plain experimental evidence.”
* Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, added: “By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”
* Dr. McCarthy de Mere, medical doctor and law professor, University of Tennessee, testified: “The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception.”
* Dr. Alfred Bongiovanni, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, concluded, “I am no more prepared to say that these early stages represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty … is not a human being.”
* Dr. Richard V. Jaynes: “To say that the beginning of human life cannot be determined scientifically is utterly ridiculous.”
* Dr. Landrum Shettles, sometimes called the “Father of In Vitro Fertilization” notes, “Conception confers life and makes that life one of a kind.” And on the Supreme Court ruling _Roe v. Wade_, “To deny a truth [about when life begins] should not be made a basis for legalizing abortion.”
* Professor Eugene Diamond: “…either the justices were fed a backwoods biology or they were pretending ignorance about a scientific certainty.”
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You have to reject the objective facts and the science to - JeffB MU - 5/11 11:59:07