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RE: Sorry, you're lost it seems.

Posted on: March 11, 2022 at 09:01:25 CT

meatiger MU

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There are a number of false claims going around

1. the claim that Trump led us to energy independence..not true...we may have hit energy independence under Trump, but that was built under Obmaa

2. Biden is the cause for us losing energy independence and the reduced oil production we are seeing today.

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The admin is all over the place with the energy crap - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:30:35

Even worse, they haven't got a clue or plan. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/11 08:06:14

why are you Trumplicans obsessed with energy! LOL - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/11 07:46:23

Um, excuse me. But you seem to be leaving out that's - MIZ45 MU - 3/11 07:53:50

Amen! That's what I love about Joe! Like he said - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/11 07:56:50

RE: why: Enjoy your posts. You're funnier than Turbo. - BH O'bonga MU - 3/11 07:49:15

Any hindrance they have today - meatiger MU - 3/11 07:43:43

RE: Any hindrance: You're repeating regime talking points. - BH O'bonga MU - 3/11 07:50:36

no....I am using data that is out there - meatiger MU - 3/11 07:52:44

irony (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 07:51:03

They're directly refuted what they've said (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:46:30

What have they refuted? - meatiger MU - 3/11 07:49:14

Just saying there are 9000 "open areas" is incredibly - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:50:00

calling something misleading is not - meatiger MU - 3/11 07:51:30

what's their spin? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:52:51

They want to claim - meatiger MU - 3/11 07:54:51

Who has said that's the sole cause of the high prices? - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:57:06

They have not hindered domestic production - meatiger MU - 3/11 07:59:39

Feb 2021 oil production 9,773 million, December 2021 - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:04:46

Nice cherry pick. Not even back to oil production - tman MU - 3/11 08:15:48

yes - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:17:10

Yes and those leases and subsequent permits where given - tman MU - 3/11 08:22:41

RE: Yes and those leases and subsequent permits where given - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:25:56

So you admit that the Biden admin has policies - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:32:07

Oil production in the US is tied directly to gas prices at - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 08:36:09

2021 is down due to low oil prices - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:34:10

So the Biden admin has no policies - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:35:52

for today..very few - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:36:33

So they are hindering domestic production (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:37:00

so why did oil production grow in 2021 - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:37:44

It didn't grow in 2021 - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:39:19

From early to late 2021 - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:40:51

worldwide oil production - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:44:53

Again, I've never claimed Biden was solely - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:45:20

you are claiming that he is hindering oil production - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:46:21

Production can be hindered and still grow. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 08:50:05

Could he be hindering future production - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:52:37

Again, record production is comparing to previous years. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 08:55:37

He is and has admitted as much - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:46:54

Look at the data - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:49:31

I think you think I'm arguing something different - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:53:02

you have put the blame on him - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:57:02

No he hasn't. Your first sentence shows your ignorance. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 08:59:23

Sal keeps bringing up previous record highs - meatiger MU - 3/11 09:03:26

Look at the actions. You have nothing to compare that - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 08:51:35

what actions? - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:53:56

Sorry, you're lost it seems. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 08:56:23

RE: Sorry, you're lost it seems. - meatiger MU - 3/11 09:01:25

That is not how comparisons work (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:41:54

He claimed it grew IN 2021. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 08:44:08

fair enough (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:44:55

But they need a way to blame Biden for high gas prices... - Gyro STL - 3/11 08:28:00

He and his admin have bragged about - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:30:49

They have NOT hindered domestic production(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/11 08:32:30

Sure they have - Sal CMSU - 3/11 08:36:14

So why aren't they drilling? (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 07:50:32

Drilling permits and leases arent the sam - tman MU - 3/11 08:09:24

so what's their holdup? - ashtray UF - 3/11 09:06:07

The govt isn't forcing companies to not use their drilling - SparkyStalcup MU - 3/11 07:36:51

Lol, goddamn. 🤦‍♂️ (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 3/11 07:54:33

I know! I don't know why these companies don't just drill! - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/11 07:48:25

No policy is keeping them from drilling with leases they - SparkyStalcup MU - 3/11 08:08:14

Leases and permits arent the same(nm) - tman MU - 3/11 08:19:06

exactly! The push for green energy has nothing to do - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/11 08:14:43

lol (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:48:53

go on...(nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:46:05

Drilling permits eh? (nm) - ummmm MU - 3/11 07:42:15

17,500 unused leases child. You happy that Big Oil CEO's - Floyd Turbo 99 - 3/11 07:33:25

RE: 17,500 unused leases child. You happy that Big Oil CEO's - BH O'bonga MU - 3/11 07:51:33

They should put a tax on unused oil leases - ashtray UF - 3/11 07:33:18

more taxes solves everything (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:48:03

They do incentivize to do the right thing (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 07:49:09

yes!! (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/11 07:50:17

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