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We made the NCAA tournament last year & were ranked in the

Posted on: December 16, 2021 at 12:58:06 CT
tgr MU
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top 25 most of the year. And he did that with only two RSCI top 100 recruits on the team (Smith & Tilmon). The teams that finished ahead of us in the SEC had this many top 100 recruits:

Alabama - 6
Arkansas - 4
LSU - 6
Tennessee - 3
Florida - 7
Ole Miss - 2


So yeah, the issue looks to be recruiting related when you look at the other teams in the conference and the level of success they had.

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Anybody else think that cm would be fine getting fired - Bump834 MU - 12/16 11:54:10
     I don't think so... - MOKE MU - 12/16 18:44:44
     he's already retired, he just didn't tell anyone - cal tiger MU - 12/16 14:54:08
          Where is his stapler? - alwaysright MU - 12/16 14:58:39
     At this point I think even CM would admit things haven't - jlbomega MU - 12/16 14:20:17
     I think you're projecting, i.e., assuming that HCCM has - *M* KC - 12/16 14:04:55
          he's not a good coach, period. - cal tiger MU - 12/16 15:02:53
               Not a good offensive coach and most certainly not a good - Erwin Fletcher STL - 12/16 17:43:56
               Who said he's a good coach? Not me. I said - *M* KC - 12/16 15:25:13
          Intelligent people agree - DollarSigns MU - 12/16 14:58:23
               RE: Intelligent people agree - *M* KC - 12/16 15:25:47
                    Weak - DollarSigns MU - 12/16 15:31:30
          other than signing a guaranteed contract - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/16 14:16:37
          *shots fired* - HissingPrigs77 MU - 12/16 14:09:30
               Take cover!And with good reason(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:17:40
                    why?(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/16 14:33:36
                         Perhaps we have heard that so much it's time for cover(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:38:28
                              It's almost 🤣 now(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:40:18
                              heard what? that martin is lazy? - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/16 14:40:11
                                   We have heard that personal baseless insult several times(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:41:17
                                        is it baseless?(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/16 14:43:50
                                             Yes.It is a calumny or slander without proof directed to an - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:53:09
                                                  Sorry for the typo lacy= lazy(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:56:34
                                             RE: is it baseless?(nm) - *M* KC - 12/16 14:47:38
                                                  Hot take there racist (nm) - DollarSigns MU - 12/16 14:59:56
                                                       Been on this board for 20.56 years as of today - *M* KC - 12/16 15:28:52
                                                            Lol. Try harder m(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 12/16 15:30:34
                                                  Good point I already answered whom I hope is a gentleman(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:54:05
     He was on record a couple of years back being fine with it. - DHighlander NWMSU - 12/16 13:35:01
     You must not know any coaches - Jeff85 MU - 12/16 12:11:52
          This is true. I was around Quin's program the last - tgr MU - 12/16 12:30:34
          RE: You must not know any coaches - Bump834 MU - 12/16 12:17:19
               I don’t agree that is the problem - Jeff85 MU - 12/16 12:23:01
                    Assuming that to be true, what was the problem - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 12:51:01
                         People that criticize the offensive style don’t - Jeff85 MU - 12/16 13:03:15
                              Here are last year's national rankings offensively - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 14:51:06
                                   Based on those # they deserve a lot of credit..good D?(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 15:05:31
                                        No, we were worse defensively - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 15:08:26
                                             I agree but...how we did so well with those off. #?(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 15:20:31
                                                  We won 16 games and went 8-8 in conf play - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 15:26:11
                              Totally agree with you.Had great Ws last year and OK's NBA - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:09:36
                         We made the NCAA tournament last year & were ranked in the - tgr MU - 12/16 12:58:06
                              Absolutely recruiting over coaching.Finished 2nd vs many (nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:11:50
                              RE: We made the NCAA tournament last year & were ranked in the - CapeKevin MU - 12/16 13:08:34
                                   Like I said finished second to several great recruits(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:13:03
                                        Are you seriously trying to make this argument? Read your - DHighlander NWMSU - 12/16 16:10:57
                                   He’s putting in the time. Especially on the big name recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/16 13:27:46
                                        Are you really still going with the "we don't cheat enough" - DHighlander NWMSU - 12/16 16:15:12
                                             You have to be willing to bend the rules to consistently - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/16 18:34:42
                              And if you watched the games, we were really poorly - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 12:59:35
                                   That is an opinion, not a fact - Jeff85 MU - 12/16 13:06:16
                                        Ok. So is your opinion we were well coached last year? - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 14:54:04
                                             MU is never going to play offensively again the way - Jeff85 MU - 12/16 15:39:28
                                                  Never is a long time, style of play will change many times - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 15:52:37
                                        If it was coaching how #1 Duke has been out in first round?(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:14:52
                                   We performed on the court about what our talent level was. - tgr MU - 12/16 13:05:37
                                        You are not kidding after watching six decades(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:16:21
                    RE: I don’t agree that is the problem - Bump834 MU - 12/16 12:26:05
                         No..herecruited and came in second to many great recruits(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:19:01
                         Could, but that’s not the problem - Jeff85 MU - 12/16 12:35:32
                              Dynamic isn't the problem. Being willing to cheat is. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 12/16 13:22:49
                                   Yes that's a big part of it.Money always talks and ...walks(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:20:30
                         I don’t think the recruiting issues are from - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/16 12:32:54
                              Agree, there is nothing left to sell other than playing - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 12:55:50
                              Agree - Jeff85 MU - 12/16 12:37:24
                              It's the same issues that almost every coach has had here. - tgr MU - 12/16 12:34:54
                                   It's been that way for a long time since Norm.Quinn brought - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:25:58
                                   That is a dangerous slope as a generalization - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 12:57:41
                                   Yea i agree with that. - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/16 12:44:09
     He kind of already address it - FIJItiger MU - 12/16 12:11:41
          he is a great leader of young men - OGT MU - 12/16 12:49:30
          Exactly - Bump834 MU - 12/16 12:17:47
     I don't think he'll retire. He'll take his buyout, sit out - tgr MU - 12/16 11:58:23
          This would be my guess. - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/16 12:00:15
               His last quote "I don't care what the score board says" - thytiger MU - 12/16 14:08:22
                    He meant the Score Board of life.. not a silly BB game(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/16 14:31:51
                         I know that I don't care about his score board of life. - thytiger MU - 12/16 14:51:56
                              My answer was in reference to his answer which had nothing - oldtgr MU - 12/16 15:32:04




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