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This is pretty much my opinion.

Posted on: October 13, 2021 at 16:57:43 CT

wu-tangtiger MU

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I think they finish between 14-18 wins.
Here’s kind of a breakdown
4 wins in noncon buy games.
2 games Mizzou should win Utah and Iowa State
3 losses Kansas, Illinois and FSU (if they get to this game)
3 tossups. 4 if they lose game 1 of the noncon tournament.
Should finish the noncon somewhere between 7-5 and 9-3.
In SEC play I see 10 games with a decent chance of winning. I think the finish somewhere between 6-12 and 8-10

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Norlander rankings - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 10:56:38

Should not be in this position at this point. nm. - MUTGR MU - 10/14 22:52:02

Just look at the recruiting and roster building - ERB KC - 10/14 09:37:54

You know the Missouri Valley transfer was all - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 09:48:17

that's pretty kind - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 17:48:31

Expecting more than 17 wins is delusional and really 14 - TigerFan92 STL - 10/13 13:40:44

If they're .500 this year it's a success - HissingPrigs77 MU - 10/13 16:48:43

doesn't mean this should be acceptable in yr 5 under CM(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 18:48:05

This is pretty much my opinion. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 16:57:43

So single digits wins we,re bad single digit Ls we,re crap(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/13 15:12:54

Single digit wins and I'll join you all on the fire - Gavin Citrus MU - 10/13 16:29:59

Single digit wins. Come on man. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 13:49:17

I mean clearly based on what we've seen so far - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 17:49:11

Is it? CM is a better coach than Kim, no question. But I - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/13 14:45:29

Better than Kim isn't saying much(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 17:49:29

How many times and ways are you going to say the same - Jeff85 MU - 10/13 17:43:56

Funny, Wu-T runs out these same fairy tales ad nauseum yet - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/13 19:54:19

More of the same bs - Jeff85 MU - 10/13 22:11:42

So.....your record pales in comparison to Kim's at Cen. Mo.? - tigerfans3 MSSU - 10/14 13:00:45

You might want to check your reading comprehension. My - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/14 09:16:12

Any evaluation that says KA was a better recruiter - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 09:37:08

KA three classes were 11, 49 & 68 for an average o`f 43. - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/14 10:11:42

Those classes resulted in 27 wins - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 10:14:50

Yes, because Kim may very possibly have been the worst coach - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/14 10:39:36

Kim was not able to constantly sign good players, that is - FIJItiger MU

- 10/14 11:53:46

Blake didn’t commit to KA - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 10:42:19

You are right I knew there was a hold over, it was Roberts - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/14 11:14:07

Both have had disappointing college careers - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 11:28:15

say what 1,000 times? - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 22:33:42

Apparently the resident expert here thinks it is only okay - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/14 09:12:07

There’s plenty of room for criticism of Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 09:38:58

That is not a claim that I have made but I would want more - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/14 10:32:28

This team has more talent and better coaching - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 14:48:26

Quit lying to people. Every single KA team had better - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/13 15:56:50

Consensus Top 100 players - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 18:16:36

word(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 17:50:58

Kim’s final team of 2016-17 was absurdly untalented, I dont - FIJItiger MU

- 10/13 16:28:15

Barnett was better than anyone we currently have. The rest - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/14 10:14:40

Barnett as a junior or Barnett as a senior? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 10:16:15

so when XP averages 18 ppg at LSU we can conclude - LamarFrazier MU - 10/14 16:50:36

He would have to have a similar jump in efficiency - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 16:56:09

So all that contextualizing and discounting of coaching - LamarFrazier MU - 10/14 20:12:20

If you want to believe KA is as good a coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/14 23:13:30

If you want to believe CM is the reason for JB's play - LamarFrazier MU - 10/15 08:07:54

Part of the reason yes. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/15 08:22:57

Doesn't matter his production those two seasons was - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/14 10:43:53

I disagree with your take here. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 16:05:41

Your analysis is horribly flawed and based on nothing but - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/13 16:16:23

If you consider Cam Thomas - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 16:24:18

"more than holding their own against teams with high level - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 17:53:16

Brookshire had 33 against Oak Hill - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 17:57:14

LOL "there is film of every player on the team more than - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 18:11:39

You asked for examples. I gave you one. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 18:17:28

you claimed every player on this team more than held their - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 18:18:20

This isn’t a new discussion. I have provided those details - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 18:20:26

not true at all(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 18:47:15

Look no further than your response - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 19:29:06

I think more than 15 wins is not likely at all. Big deal. - LamarFrazier MU - 10/13 19:46:09

Man, that is horrid. Hard times for MU basketball(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/13 13:07:00

How about we watch them play an effing game - tsutiger57 MU - 10/13 15:29:35

Most of us have watched over the last 4 years. We - oleMIZZOU MU - 10/13 19:33:46

I will see if I can hunt down the Bossi interview - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 19:59:46

Gives them a chance at 20 wins. I personally think - SabertoothTiger MU - 10/13 13:10:29

I am not sure he’s taking into account how hard - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 13:14:52

When 16 is in the conversation for top end scenario - FIJItiger MU

- 10/13 13:14:22

indeed. Hard times but if we did get 20 wins this year - SabertoothTiger MU - 10/13 13:19:45

Nice dream. Clean & G-rated. Team is not making NCAAs. - Sigma MU - 10/13 13:27:49

agree. I see 16 wins as the top end as noted - SabertoothTiger MU - 10/13 13:30:14

With a Mississippi State or Arkansas type - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 13:16:02

Like I said, sounds horrid. Hopefully they are - FIJItiger MU

- 10/13 13:20:35

This year is the setup for 22-23. It is not about winning! - Sigma MU - 10/13 13:29:26

It’s definitely about winning. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 13:44:29

You're assuming other teams won't improve or bring in - Sigma MU - 10/13 14:37:03

Your assuming Mizzou doesn’t improve - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 14:49:23

I have not made a 22/23 prediction or wrote - Sigma MU - 10/13 16:08:43

There will most likely be considerable roster turnover - FIJItiger MU

- 10/13 13:34:13

I would bet against that happening - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 13:47:55

Agree and hope it doesn't happen(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/13 15:02:44

What is amazing is when we entered this league it looked - MU-TULSA MU - 10/13 12:34:25

RE: What is amazing is when we entered this league it looked - FIJItiger MU

- 10/13 13:11:41

7 were behind Mizzou last season. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 13:10:17

Let's hope, but let's also hope we dont see the - MU-TULSA MU - 10/13 13:23:42

I doubt the AD makes any moves/decisions - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 13:46:50

CM won 20 games when he had Barnett, Kass, Porter, Tilmon, - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/13 12:15:01

Behind Yale! Repeat ..behind Yale!...wow - Sigma MU - 10/13 11:44:00

Screw Yale, we are behind K-State and they have won - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/13 12:54:05

But does K-State have our transfers & Wilmore? Fast pace - Sigma MU - 10/13 13:26:16

it's almost like these are total guesses. let's be sure to - TigerA MU - 10/13 12:56:18

Right because we do not have four years of, call them, - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/13 13:02:28

you know this didn't really happen right?(nm) - TigerA MU - 10/13 12:10:59

Being ranked behind Yale in anything other than academics is - Sigma MU - 10/13 12:31:41

i agree if it ends up that way it is bad. (nm) - TigerA MU - 10/13 12:35:33

Seems like an honest take - atMIZZOUnow MU - 10/13 11:33:01

Me too and some of us have already expressed it(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/13 12:02:07

I agree with his overall take however - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/13 11:35:33

It makes a huge difference whether we lose by 20 or by 5(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/13 12:04:26

Id be pretty happy with above 16 wins this season - atMIZZOUnow MU - 10/13 11:36:24

same (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/13 11:56:27