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Posted on: October 4, 2021 at 14:04:12 CT
FIJItiger MU
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1970 - 1995:

Kansas ( 3.00 avg conf finish) : 228 - 122
Missouri ( 3.00 avg conf finish) : 221 - 129
Oklahoma ( 3.44 avg conf finish) : 214 - 136
Kansas State ( 3.92 avg conf finish) : 189 - 161
Nebraska ( 4.56 avg conf finish) : 172 - 178
Oklahoma State ( 5.40 avg conf finish) : 141 - 209
Iowa State ( 5.48 avg conf finish) : 135 - 215
Colorado ( 6.80 avg conf finish) : 100 - 250


1975 - 1990:

Missouri ( 2.67 avg conf finish) : 138 - 72
Oklahoma ( 3.00 avg conf finish) : 138 - 72
Kansas State ( 3.53 avg conf finish) : 116 - 94
Kansas ( 3.60 avg conf finish) : 127 - 83
Nebraska ( 4.60 avg conf finish) : 104 - 106
Iowa State ( 5.40 avg conf finish) : 82 - 128
Oklahoma State ( 6.00 avg conf finish) : 80 - 130
Colorado ( 7.07 avg conf finish) : 55 - 155


Decade of the 1980's:

Missouri ( 2.55 avg conf finish) : 105 - 49
Oklahoma ( 2.91 avg conf finish) : 106 - 48
Kansas ( 3.73 avg conf finish) : 92 - 62
Kansas State ( 3.91 avg conf finish) : 79 - 75
Nebraska ( 4.82 avg conf finish) : 71 - 83
Iowa State ( 5.18 avg conf finish) : 61 - 93
Oklahoma State ( 5.82 avg conf finish) : 63 - 91
Colorado ( 7.09 avg conf finish) : 39 - 115


Best period for MU: 1980 - 1994

Missouri ( 2.87 avg conf finish) : 140 - 70
Kansas ( 3.20 avg conf finish) : 133 - 77
Oklahoma ( 3.53 avg conf finish) : 132 - 78
Kansas State ( 4.60 avg conf finish) : 98 - 112
Nebraska ( 4.60 avg conf finish) : 102 - 108
Oklahoma State ( 4.73 avg conf finish) : 99 - 111
Iowa State ( 5.20 avg conf finish) : 84 - 126
Colorado ( 7.27 avg conf finish) : 52 - 158


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MU bb in the Big 8 - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 14:04:12
     Great times. Shocked that NU is higher than ISU in all lists - ClassicTiger MU - 10/5 09:14:28
     Big 8 had 8 Final Four appearances from 70-95 - Wilson STL - 10/4 22:36:01
     RE: MU bb in the Big 8 - slamduncan KC - 10/4 16:01:00
          Yes, I remember the Bob Vanatta years well-lol(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 10/4 16:13:50
               RE: Yes, I remember the Bob Vanatta years well-lol(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 16:27:03
                    A good man, but 4 yrs of the worst BB I have ever seen(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 10/4 16:40:45
                         Just looked it up and saw that his son Rob who - Sarazen MU - 10/5 11:00:58
                              RE: Just looked it up and saw that his son Rob who - FIJItiger MU - 10/5 12:09:24
     Great.. Norm Stewart = Bill Snyder. The only coach who - TigerMatt KC - 10/4 15:59:47
          Its pretty easy to field a nationally relevant program at MU - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 16:02:59
               A program can only go so many years past its glory years - KC rules MU - 10/4 17:54:31
               ? - XRob MU - 10/4 17:25:54
                    They both sustained it, then left. We would have been - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 18:02:11
                         Haith sustained it? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 18:10:23
                              Haith averaged 25 wins in his three seasons and won a B12 - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 18:42:12
                                   If last year wasn’t relevant then neither of Haith’s - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 18:43:53
                                        MU was ranked most of last season and defeated numerous - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 19:04:58
                                             Relevant is insufficient. I want to be good. And they are - alwaysright MU - 10/5 06:43:57
                                                  Well since 2014 we are shooting for mediocre and almost - FIJItiger MU - 10/5 08:54:47
                                                       And every coaching hire for 15 years was a mistake. - alwaysright MU - 10/5 15:25:43
                                             I wouldn’t consider a NIT team nationally relevant (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 19:10:32
                                                  We made the NCAA tournament last year(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 19:15:14
                                                       Haith’s last season was a NIT team. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 19:19:51
                                                            Haith had a better record that season than CM did this one. - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 19:25:46
                                                                 I understand that you don’t care about strength of schedule - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 19:30:47
                                                                      Except there was one HUGE difference, Haith had a history of - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 20:08:32
                                                                           Haiths recruiting was not that great. - alwaysright MU - 10/5 06:45:50
                                                                                In his three years here. 240, 54, 16 according to 247. - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/5 10:01:51
                                                                                     I basically never defend Mike Anderson, but the "he quit" - alwaysright MU - 10/5 20:51:06
                                                                                RE: Haiths recruiting was not that great. - FIJItiger MU - 10/5 07:26:24
                                                                           Interesting take considering Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 20:21:23
                                                                                If Frank Haith was such a good coach, he might have had a - alwaysright MU - 10/5 20:53:00
                                                                                The Porters were NOT Martin recruits, they were coming to - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 20:25:01
                                                                                     Did they commit to play for him? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 20:36:38
                                                                                          They committed to play at Missouri CM just happened to be - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 21:27:08
                                                                                               So they committed to play for Cuonzo (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 21:39:32
                                                                                                    If that allows you to feel better about your guy then - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 21:45:47
                                                                                                         Not my guy. I just don’t have to create - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 21:50:49
                                                            Did you follow MU then? that is a very weird recollection of - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 19:24:42
                                                                 Wu-T's remembrance of Mizzou BB seems to end at the hiring - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 19:30:19
                                                                 Only if NIT is nationally relevant - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 19:27:16
                                                                      That is a pretty wide disconnect to what was - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 19:28:34
                                                                           Clarkson, Ross and Brown were all leaving. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 19:32:22
                                                                                No, we would have still have a very talented and experienced - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 20:44:30
                                                                                     Which of those weren’t true? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 20:52:25
                                                                                          RE: Which of those weren’t true? - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 21:11:54
                                                                                               That looks like role players really developing - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 21:20:38
                                                                                                    Well to be fair - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 21:26:50
                                                                                                         Turns out I was right about Tilmon (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 21:40:22
                                                                                                              No (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 21:41:47
                                                                                                                   He’s still not considered a NBA prospect - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 21:51:55
                                                                                                                        Agree, we are talking about them as freshman (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 22:00:59
                                                                                                                             Same is true. TB was talking about him - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 22:06:42
                                                                                                                                  Tigerboard is a collection of many individuals with many - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 22:14:03
                                                                                                                                       That didn’t say anything about him being an expected - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 22:21:22
                                                                                                                                            Well actually it does - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 22:34:15
                                                                                                                                                 Just said potential sleeper in the draft. That one or a - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 22:52:14
                                                                                                                                                      Jesus, sometimes I wonder why I bother. And whether - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 23:17:39
                                                                                                                                                           You just posted an article by a guy saying Puryear - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/5 07:09:04
                                                                                                                                                                RE: You just posted an article by a guy saying Puryear - FIJItiger MU - 10/5 07:20:55
                                                                                                                                                                     You found a scout that said Puryear could be - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/5 07:26:46
                                                                                                                                                                          The end, this is the tedious part (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/5 07:29:33
                                                                                                                                                                               Here’s his 2018 mock draft - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/5 08:12:26
                                                                                                                                                 He was the 43rd rated prospect in the nation, of course he - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 22:51:12
                                                                                                                                                      Lots in the top 50 dont make the NBA. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 22:54:18
                                                                                He was returning a future NBA player, another guy who was a - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 20:15:37
                                                                                     You will find out in a little over a month that those 4 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 20:23:58
                                                                                          It's not just TB undervaluing them. They were not highly - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 20:30:10
                                                                                               Like I said once the season starts - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 20:38:44
                                                                                                    You mean like Braun was an all-conference caliber player? - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 20:52:52
                                                                                                         I know how it works here. You guys bash the player - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 20:56:02
                                                                                                              Actually you have never seen me do that. I was not in favor - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 21:22:16
                              Yes, MU was never not nationally relevant in that era(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 18:12:07
                                   What does nationally relevant mean then - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 18:14:00
                                        He won a B12 title and had a 34-20 conference record. - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/4 19:16:47
                                        Agree MU was nationally relevant last season. - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 19:02:43
                                             If Dixon had been allowed to stay on the team - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 19:09:49
                                                  Well, considerably better than that. - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 19:13:31
     Seems newsworthy that the Big 8 started in 1970(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 14:31:57
          My list starts in 1970, Big 8 added Colorado in 1957 - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 14:34:37
               Incorrect! CU 1947 &OK St in 1958. You’re cherry picking by - miz_zou MU - 10/4 15:54:58
                    The post indicates why - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 15:55:56
                         As I said, cherry picking stats(nm) - miz_zou MU - 10/4 16:00:56
                              Yes, I cherry picked a 25 year window. How narrow (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 16:04:06
                                   Your OP was MU in the Big 8. You left out a decade +. Lol(nm) - miz_zou MU - 10/4 16:18:07
                                        Apologies if you find the subject heading confusing, but - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 16:29:08
                                             You cherry picked MU’s Big 8 performance by leaving out - miz_zou MU - 10/4 16:51:52
                                                  MU first rose to national relevance in 1970 after signing - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 16:57:44
                                                       Realistically, 1970 pretty well marks the start of modern - alwaysright MU - 10/4 18:24:07
                                        Thankfully we had FB then. BB really sucked(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 10/4 16:24:55
               I wouldn’t draw any conclusions from anything that - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 14:59:27
                    The only real high level conclusion is that for most - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 15:38:12
                         It’s simpler than that. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 17:51:38
                              both Haith and MA have higher winning % than Norm - LamarFrazier MU - 10/4 18:20:11
                                   Very misleading - KC rules MU - 10/4 18:35:01
                                   You can believe they are better coaches if you want - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 18:21:49
                                        "The non Norm years haven’t been great." - LamarFrazier MU - 10/4 18:49:54
                                             2 of those 8 years were great - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 18:55:21
                                                  Let's simplify this: - LamarFrazier MU - 10/4 20:28:59
                                                       You always bring everything back to comparing - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 20:41:35
                                                            just saying Norm wasn't the only one to have great years(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/4 21:05:17
                                                                 Ok 2 of the over 20 years since Norm - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/4 21:08:55
                                                                      Sure. Just think great is relative(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/5 08:09:32
                         RE: The only real high level conclusion is that for most - Radical Tiger MU - 10/4 15:52:28
                              It wasn't until the latter years of the Snyder tenure - KC rules MU - 10/4 16:06:22
                              RE: The only real high level conclusion is that for most - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 15:59:35
          MU vs Big 12 691-474 (.59%) (nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/4 14:26:14
               MU is 3rd behind kU/OU - zoomer 99 - 10/4 14:27:13
          MU went 6-8 and got 6th in the final yr (1996) of Big 8 - FIJItiger MU - 10/4 14:24:42




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