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I don't have time to look up all of the documents and so on

Posted on: September 29, 2021 at 23:34:43 CT
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and I think she would be better served not to claim that he is "not following the bible", but I think she has valid religious grounds for rejecting the vaccine.

Generally speaking the biblical grounds would be that all human beings are made in the image and likeness of God and that Our Lord prohibits the intentional killing of innocent human beings in the fifth of the ten commandments.

Babies were aborted alive, placed in fridge to harvest cell lines used in some vaccines: researcher
'These babies were literally placed into the fridge alive and then stored between one and 24 hours until they could be dismembered.'
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/babies-were-aborted-alive-placed-in-fridge-to-harvest-cell-lines-used-in-some-vaccines-researcher/

As I alluded to above there are several documents from the Vatican of the preceding decades discussing these types of issues and how we are to evaluate them. They discuss things like how to evaluate the various levels of cooperation in evil, mitigating factors and so on.

As I recall there were 3 main factors to be evaluated in assessing the culpability of an individual who participated in the "remote" cooperation in evil. eg. They didn't do the evil action and did not intend for the evil.

Two of the three that come to mind that I think are relevant here are:

1. There must be a proportionally serious reason for doing or not doing actions that are a remote cooperation in any evil.

2. There must be no alternatives that could eliminate or significantly mitigate the serious reason for doing so.

3. ?

Even if all of the above criteria were evaluated in favor of getting a tainted vaccine, each person would be duty bound to diligently work to stop that evil from continuing and to prod those who have done the evil or are propagating it to stop and find moral alternatives.

The above were used in evaluating vaccines like ones for smallpox or polio as I recall.

The Church also teaches that the primacy of a well formed conscience is sacrosanct. People should not be forced or pressured to violate their consciences.

Although others may in good faith come to a different conclusion than she has, I think this woman is on solid ground in making the moral judgment that she must reject the vaccines, especially on the grounds of the use of aborted baby cell lines in their testing &/or development. There is no reason that the pharmaceutical companies must use them and morally licit alternatives are readily available.

I think a reasonable case could also be made that she has evaluated the risks and the benefits of the vaccine and feels that she does not want to take any of them at this particular time on that basis. Whether people disagree I think that she should have the right to make that decision.
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     she was referring to the fact that he's a hypocrite and not - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/30 00:57:40
     I don't have time to look up all of the documents and so on - JeffB MU - 9/29 23:34:43
          Dayum Jeff, u must be dumb - Wildcat KSU - 9/30 00:19:25
               LOL such a lying always defeated POS - JG MU - 9/30 00:29:51
                    Do I nail you - Wildcat KSU - 9/30 01:09:00
                         what - JG MU - 9/30 01:21:16
          So why was your source banned from youtube? - JG MU - 9/29 23:43:01
               YouTube has banned ALL AntiVaxxTerminated videos fool - Catturd USMC - 9/29 23:49:01
                    So they were banned for posting misinformation - JG MU - 9/29 23:50:52
                         As defined by their uber liberal censors. - JeffB MU - 9/29 23:53:56
                              I dunno they peddle in misinformation - JG MU - 9/30 00:26:38
                                   Can you give examples? Yahoo News has peddled a lot of - JeffB MU - 9/30 10:17:21
                                   It is a trash site and has been for years.(nm) - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:28:10
                                        Because you reject God and disagree with all that they - JeffB MU - 9/30 10:41:10
                              Life Site News has a long history of distorting the truth - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:03:32
                                   Can you give some examples? I realize that you very much - JeffB MU - 9/30 10:19:44
                                   Attacking the messenger does not change the truth. - JeffB MU - 9/30 00:10:18
                                        Because the buying of body parts was a lie. - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:14:43
                                             Your statement is absolutely false. I hope it is not a - JeffB MU - 9/30 00:16:57
                                                  I posted a link to the outcome of multiple state - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:21:14
                                                       Absence of proof is not proof of absence, especially in - JeffB MU - 9/30 00:24:44
                                                            There is actual evidence of the holocaust. You can't make - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:27:21
                                                                 There is a LOT of evidence of the use of aborted baby body - JeffB MU - 9/30 10:40:25
                         Google>YouTube>Censored>JGDumb#ss - Catturd USMC - 9/29 23:53:53
          The cell lines are grown in a lab and contain no actual - TigerMatt - 9/29 23:42:55
               That does not change the fact of the gravely immoral - JeffB MU - 9/29 23:47:26
                    And yet many lives have since been saved by them. You - TigerMatt - 9/29 23:51:14
                         The Church has always condemned the proposition that - JeffB MU - 9/29 23:56:04
                              Jesus was murdered for your sins.(nm) - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:00:10
                                   Are you trying to justify the actions of His murderers? (nm) - JeffB MU - 9/30 00:11:18
                                        Look at what you posted. Jesus came to Earth knowing he - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:14:10
                                             Jesus knew that He would be murdered, but He willingly - JeffB MU - 9/30 00:20:18
                                                  There is absolutely no difference in taking cells from a - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:23:31
                                                       I already explained to you a major difference. The doctors - JeffB MU - 9/30 00:25:58
                                                            HEK-293 has not a damn thing to do with Planned Parenthood. - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:30:34
     how about it's none of your f'n business what her rationale - blake1771 MU - 9/29 23:26:30
          LOl crap like trying to understand simpleton "logic" - JG MU - 9/29 23:39:25
     Study catholicism on your own - Wildcat KSU - 9/29 23:02:11
          LOl I just figured one of you idiots would - JG MU - 9/29 23:05:46
     Hey JGBushco, Are you gonna leave the Space Cult to become - Catturd USMC - 9/29 23:02:01
     What vaccine did the Pope get? - Spanky KU - 9/29 22:59:30
          'the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine' - JeffB MU - 9/29 23:52:41
          Are you opposed to murder victim organ donations? - TigerMatt - 9/29 23:34:51
               That analogy does not hold up. The abortuaries are taking - JeffB MU - 9/30 00:05:39
                    Those abortions were happening anyway. No woman was - TigerMatt - 9/30 00:09:34
                         These are horribly evil, inhumane actions and the medical - JeffB MU - 9/30 00:15:33
          The saline solution one - Catturd USMC - 9/29 23:05:46
     Probably aborted fetus stem cells in the Fauci-Mengele - Catturd USMC - 9/29 22:57:20
     Hopefully she was just making up an excuse. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 9/29 22:55:24




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