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Posted on: August 12, 2021 at 18:35:08 CT
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https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2008/february/truth-about-tonkin

.....Commander Stockdale was again in the action, this time alone. When his wingman's aircraft developed trouble, Stockdale got permission to launch solo from the Ticonderoga. He arrived overhead at 2135. For more than 90 minutes, he made runs parallel to the ships' course and at low altitude (below 2,000 feet) looking for the enemy vessels. He reported later, "I had the best seat in the house to watch that event and our destroyers were just shooting at phantom targets—there were no PT boats there . . . there was nothing there but black water and American firepower."11

Captain Herrick also began to have doubts about the attack. As the battle continued, he realized the "attacks" were actually the results of "overeager sonar operators" and poor equipment performance. The Turner Joy had not detected any torpedoes during the entire encounter, and Herrick determined that the Maddox's operators were probably hearing the ship's propellers reflecting off her rudder during sharp turns.12 The destroyer's main gun director was never able to lock onto any targets because, as the operator surmised, the radar was detecting the stormy sea's wave tops.....

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     Money hell, young men that were killed and maimed...Get - tigertix MU - 8/12 18:37:59
          RE: Money hell, young men that were killed and maimed...Get - El-ahrairah BAMA - 8/12 19:04:16
     Small potatoes compared to VN - mu7176grad MU - 8/12 18:01:26
          and VN was based on a lie - Spanky KU - 8/12 18:35:08
               So was Afghanistan(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 8/12 18:55:35
                    No - Spanky KU - 8/12 19:29:23
                         Yes... - TigerMatt - 8/12 20:00:34
                              That would have been too easy(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 8/12 20:32:01
                              Mullah Mohammed Omar said there was no move to "hand anyone - Spanky KU - 8/12 20:02:28
                                   Nope.. it was all a lie. They could have tried him in - TigerMatt - 8/12 20:13:47
                                        His crime was in the US - Spanky KU - 8/12 21:23:12
     All on W(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/12 17:56:25
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                    Facts hurt your wee little brain - Spanky KU - 8/12 19:33:50
                         Whatever you say Sparky - the nation of Afghanistan - raskolnikov MU - 8/12 19:40:27
                              the nation of Afghanistan harbored and supported OBL - Spanky KU - 8/12 19:50:42
                                   The did not support him. They tolerated him - how did W's - raskolnikov MU - 8/12 21:08:07
                                        No OBL, no 9-11, no Afghanistan War - Spanky KU - 8/12 21:24:27
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