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The proposed action described in the OP article is not a
Posted on: August 5, 2021 at 10:41:49 CT
ummmm
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protection of individual rights. It is to the contrary.
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Mo reps want to stop private businesses mandating vax
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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8/5 10:05:41
Muh gubbiment PLEASE
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JG
MU
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8/5 11:24:30
Yet the University is going to mandate it?
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Bad Breath
MU
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8/5 11:01:35
Another massive bit of conservative hypocrisy,
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GA Tiger
MU
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8/5 10:24:34
"Conservatives" have been doing this for decades
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 10:31:06
Yes I do. There is SO much to cry about.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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8/5 11:22:24
If by this you mean protecting individual rights you are
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 10:34:10
goddamn you are stupid
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pickle
MU
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8/5 12:49:37
You must also be against drug screening and background
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hefeweizen
MU
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8/5 10:57:29
The proposed action described in the OP article is not a
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ummmm
MU
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8/5 10:41:49
So are you claiming people have a individual right to force
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:00:20
There's no force if an employer says it is a condition of
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ummmm
MU
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8/5 12:29:01
And if my scenario had happened, with a death, then
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GA Tiger
MU
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8/5 11:27:12
My getting the vaccine or not has absolutely nothing to do
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:32:32
But you force kids to be there
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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8/5 11:36:32
Are you and kids required to get other vaccines
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:33:17
Kids are(nm)
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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8/5 11:34:24
It's not force. Your employment is a voluntary relationship(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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8/5 11:01:48
So when a boss tells his secretary to put out or she is
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:10:52
It's not perfectly fine.
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ummmm
MU
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8/5 12:29:31
you can quit a job
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ashtray
UF
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8/5 11:15:24
The secretary can also quit her job. The government is not
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:20:45
They are infringing on the business owner’s rights
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pickle
MU
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8/5 12:52:39
The govt is dictating aspects of the employer-employee
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ummmm
MU
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8/5 12:30:22
yes, she can
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ashtray
UF
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8/5 11:40:54
RE: The secretary can also quit her job. The government is not
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:23:25
Yeah, the opinions of stupid people do not carry much weight
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:27:30
there it is (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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8/5 11:29:53
too bad you limited choice C to ummmm(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:31:22
yeah, ummmm didn't stick around long enough (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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8/5 11:33:29
The boss has just committed a crime. Nm
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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8/5 11:12:14
That’s not her job
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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8/5 11:12:10
Getting a shot is mine? I have read my contact, there is a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:16:43
"adhering to policy"(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:18:47
RE: "adhering to policy"(nm)
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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8/5 11:26:17
So you think any policy would be legally binding? Could
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:25:30
Ignoring the legal binding part
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:29:54
The act of making her put out
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:11:59
making her put out would be rape, requiring putting out
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SwampTiger
MU
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8/5 11:21:16
But the act of forcing a needle in someone's arm is not?
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:14:09
there is no needle being forced(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:14:59
No one is being forced(nm)
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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8/5 11:14:58
where is the "force"
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:01:14
You guys are seriously fùcked in the head arguing that take
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:08:56
it’s not force (nm)
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pickle
MU
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8/5 12:50:59
So any firing for any cause
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:11:25
Most jobs are at-will these days. You can be laid off for
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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8/5 11:12:58
Seems like Parsons would shut that down before it started
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TigerJackSwartz
MU
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8/5 10:08:51
lol
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Sal
CMSU
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8/5 10:08:32
private businesses should be able to do what they want
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KCT-BoneTiger
MU
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8/5 10:08:03
If a private business forces employees to be vaccinated
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 10:25:03
I wouldn't think they're liable
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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8/5 10:37:57
But you changed rules midsentence. I am already an
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:04:48
then quit (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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8/5 11:44:49
So you are only bound by your original contract?(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:19:32
Teachers either sign a new contract every year or the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:36:01
So I would assume it would be in the new contract
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:36:49
You asked about liability. (nm)
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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8/5 11:17:26
it makes an interesting workers comp hypothetical(nm)
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gmmm98
MU
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8/5 10:44:10
How are the employees being forced?
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 10:29:56
When I was hired the was no requirement to get a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 10:33:09
or you can quit
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ashtray
UF
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8/5 11:45:32
I guess you're entitled to the job? (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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8/5 10:44:50
Entitled, no. But I do have a contact with my employer and
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:02:12
Contracts don't cover everything. Is there a provision in
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ummmm
MU
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8/5 12:31:31
They would have to change the contract
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:13:26
You wouldn't be taking an untested vaccine. Nm
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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8/5 11:08:51
Can you tell me with certainty what the long term effects of
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/5 11:12:38
No, it isn't. Over 2 billion people have gotten a dose world
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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8/5 11:17:18
What term is needed
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:14:25
minimum 10 years like all other Vaxes prior(nm)
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TigerFan92
STL
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8/5 11:25:08
Huh?
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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8/5 11:39:33
testing was done on humans in 1965 and prior to that on
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TigerFan92
STL
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8/5 11:59:14
You said that a 10 year minimum was required
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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8/5 13:03:33
the covid vaccine isn't being forced on you, either (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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8/5 12:12:07
as dumb as you are, even you know where this is going(nm)
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TigerFan92
STL
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8/5 13:07:33
Every single vaccine and variants of vaccines
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 11:32:32
Basic research on mRNA vaccines started 25 years ago. Nm
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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8/5 11:31:09
failure after failure(nm)
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TigerFan92
STL
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8/5 11:55:14
not force and it isn't untested (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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8/5 11:04:13
Not at all
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meatiger
MU
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8/5 10:37:07
lol DH (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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8/5 10:36:50
Nobody is forcing you to continue to work there
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Say_What
MU
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8/5 10:35:17
Bake the cake. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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8/5 10:37:09
force is the wrong word but no. (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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8/5 10:28:31
of course(nm)
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MizzouAstro
MU
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8/5 10:20:41
Yep
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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8/5 10:12:01
Well...if a worker refused to get the shot after
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GA Tiger
MU
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8/5 10:26:26
The worker would be fired
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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8/5 11:06:35