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Is it possible?

Posted on: July 17, 2021 at 23:14:23 CT
JG MU
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I know most of the board wants to talk about CRT and ways to "re-instate" a criminal thug to the Presidency but lets think a bigger game here.

Climate change by far and away is the biggest problem and threat facing America and the world.

but is it even possible to stop or reverse it?
Technologically ? yes
economically - is obviously the sticking point so lets look at that


the world puts 40 billion tons into the atmosphere each year.

current estimates to capture carbon from the atmosphere
directly is about 232 dollars per ton (which is down
3x from just what it was just a few years ago- so like solar and wind energy (which ragliar thought would NEVER be commercially viable-but are already cheaper than coal and oil) it will only absolutely get cheaper)

so at current dollars it would cost a little over 9 trillion a year to recapture all the co2 that we emit.

lets say that over the next 5 years we half that- so maybe 4.5 trillion bucks a year.


So how does that stack up.

The US is 28 trillion dollars in debt (so obviously spending is not really the issue)

The world budget of all countries government budgets equal 35 trillion dollars.

The global economy is 85 trillion dollars.

So a modest reduction in DACT would put it at about 5% of the current global economy,

And the overall costs would decrease each year if we
also scaled up our renewable clean energies and used
better agricultural techniques and planted a few more trees, etc etc etc etc.

So without positing any particular policy discussion
( I know how many of you hate policy and prefer emotional tantrums) but I merely present some figures and scale of the problem for you all to process .

but solutions are possible and not at all that great a
(relative) cost.

Edited by JG at 23:16:21 on 07/17/21
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Is it possible? - JG MU - 7/17 23:14:23
     IMHO - no. It's too late to forestall or avoid the impact - raskolnikov MU - 7/18 09:08:32
     "Without posting any particular policy discussion" - MIZ45 MU - 7/18 07:24:33
          what is the purpose of government ? - JG MU - 7/18 11:32:05
               You just said the other day that you've never avoided a - MIZ45 MU - 7/18 14:01:19
                    did younot understand the nature of myquestion - JG MU - 7/18 14:31:42
                         No. I called you out on you (yet again) trying to avoid - MIZ45 MU - 7/18 14:50:03
                              steamrolled you/flailing - JG MU - 7/18 20:02:29
                                   Nonsensical (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 7/18 22:34:35
     The earth is going to be destroyed at some point. Chase - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/18 00:04:03
          Hi Satan (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/18 10:34:50
               You chat with Literary characters much?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 7/18 10:53:13
          The earth is not going anywhere, nor is life on earth going - raskolnikov MU - 7/18 09:11:55
          Where in the Bible does it state that a generation is - TigerMatt - 7/18 00:20:32
               RE: Where in the Bible does it state that a generation is - sarasotatiger MU - 7/18 04:08:16
          Why would God destroy his own creation? You really suck at - TigerMatt - 7/18 00:16:12
               Or introduce and allow a virus to kill millions. Seems - GA Tiger MU - 7/18 06:14:33
          lol - JG MU - 7/18 00:08:28
               So, you expect to live how long? - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/18 01:36:30
                    nother 40 ish years - JG MU - 7/18 11:35:47
               Some of these rapture nuts before thought it would end by - TigerMatt - 7/18 00:34:15
               Now when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon - MizzouTigerz MU - 7/18 00:15:57
                    That was referring to captivity in Egypt, nothing modern(nm) - TigerMatt - 7/18 00:26:27
                    So we're talking Methuselah generations here - JG MU - 7/18 00:23:25
     the world has been warming for thousands of years - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/18 00:00:46
          LOL I should have called for an adult swim - JG MU - 7/18 00:02:05
               The sands of the Sahara seem endless – in time as much as - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/18 00:10:04
                    I've ran into a few "mega-Chads" before(nm) - dangertim MU - 7/18 07:32:33
                    I agree you guys really don't understand a damn thing - JG MU - 7/18 00:16:15
                         yes, so you agree, climate change has been going on - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/18 00:17:23
                              Climate change has been going throughout geological time - KC rules MU - 7/18 11:36:17
                                   trouble is Trumplicans can not think - JG MU - 7/18 11:37:47
                              to my knowledge no one EVER has disputed that - JG MU - 7/18 00:19:22
                                   back to your original post - it's NOT possible - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/18 00:20:37
                                        I just said it is because you know - JG MU - 7/18 00:23:53
                                             better that it's warming than cooling - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/18 00:26:27
                                                  well there is a tremendous amount of buffering - JG MU - 7/18 00:28:23
     CO2 is .04% of the atmosphere - El Zorro MU - 7/18 00:00:40
          LOL Biden is way out of touch - JG MU - 7/18 00:03:29
     Only the terminally stupid believe climate change is the - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/17 23:52:55
          RE: Only the terminally stupid believe climate change is the - sarasotatiger MU - 7/18 08:36:44
          LOL you being the prime example of someone - JG MU - 7/17 23:56:14
               This one. Ace was actually the OP you just quickly jumped - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/18 00:09:48
                    Higher temperatures trap moisture - JG MU - 7/18 00:14:44
                         KC was covered. FYI geology is not a branch of physics you - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/18 00:29:16
                              My God you can't even read a simple map you - JG MU - 7/18 00:30:30
                                   Read the link you imbecile. Here let me help you. - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/18 00:32:56
                                        Ahhh so its an English problem for you then - JG MU - 7/18 00:35:22
                                             Wrong again. The Quaternary was the most recent and - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/18 01:01:47
                                             well gnight this is almost as good as your physics - JG MU - 7/18 00:49:28
                                                  In that you are correct. You know as little about geology - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/18 01:03:12
                                                       LOL phucking idiot - JG MU - 7/18 11:30:40
          Climate change is the biggest hoax since the - Outsider MU - 7/17 23:55:39
               RE: Climate change is the biggest hoax since the - JG MU - 7/17 23:56:41
     We should let emitters buy carbon credits - Spanky KU - 7/17 23:48:03
          thats possibly part of the solution - JG MU - 7/17 23:52:47
               Allow them to emit more - Spanky KU - 7/18 00:11:12
                    that would be the TOP way of addressing the problem - JG MU - 7/18 00:17:02
                         So you are a dumb Dem-Lib - Spanky KU - 7/18 00:23:08
                              0 for 3 - JG MU - 7/18 00:24:46
                                   No - Wildcat KSU - 7/18 01:03:35
                                        damn you are stupid dishonest - JG MU - 7/18 11:34:00
                                        George likes taxes. He mistakes activity for accomplishment - Spanky KU - 7/18 07:16:12
                                             You love lying and you do it all the time - JG MU - 7/18 11:33:27
                                                  No lies in my post. As you well know(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/18 12:22:37
                                                       we both know for a fact that all you do is lie - JG MU - 7/18 13:22:33
     RE: Is it possible? - MOCO SON MU - 7/17 23:22:46
     We can keep dumping fertilizers in the ocean to cause - TigerMatt - 7/17 23:22:06
          well we have a very lovely ribbon - JG MU - 7/17 23:25:46
               I provided a solution. You just copied off some Green New - TigerMatt - 7/17 23:30:06
                    You eliminated 80 million tons of fish - JG MU - 7/17 23:38:42
                         Fish release carbon dioxide into the water. The more fish - TigerMatt - 7/18 00:12:15
                              You are a child on a anthill - JG MU - 7/18 00:18:06
                                   If you are the anthill, then yes, I would be the child.(nm) - TigerMatt - 7/18 00:21:23
                                        HAHAHAHAHA - JG MU - 7/18 00:25:22
                                             I used to pizz on anthills as a child. Funny.. same thing - TigerMatt - 7/18 00:27:34
                                                  Delusional as a child hey - JG MU - 7/18 00:29:09
                    Dude is a real turd. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/17 23:38:42
                         NWOTRUMPERS against the NWO - JG MU - 7/17 23:39:55
                              Everything is R vs D with you. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/17 23:43:36
                                   LOL - JG MU - 7/17 23:51:45
                                        Dude, go get smacked around on The Shack. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/18 00:03:49
                                             You actually believe you smack me around - JG MU - 7/18 00:05:46
                                                  Reads like some whacko fortune cookie. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/18 00:44:11
                                                       See above how I smacked the ****ke out - JG MU - 7/18 00:46:18
                                                            You're regularly dunked on and smashed - Wildcat KSU - 7/18 01:05:40
                                                                 LOL delusionals gonna delude - JG MU - 7/18 11:34:31
          RE: We can keep dumping fertilizers in the ocean to cause - MOCO SON MU - 7/17 23:24:27
     LOL. nm. - MUTGR MU - 7/17 23:15:39




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