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Posted on: June 3, 2021 at 11:38:23 CT
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"In 1973, Michael Harrington coined the term "neoconservatism" to describe those liberal intellectuals and political philosophers who were disaffected with the political and cultural attitudes dominating the Democratic Party and were moving toward a new form of conservatism. Intended by Harrington as a pejorative term, it was accepted by Kristol as an apt description of the ideas and policies exemplified by The Public Interest. Unlike liberals, for example, neoconservatives rejected most of the Great Society programs sponsored by Lyndon Johnson; and unlike traditional conservatives, they supported the more limited welfare state instituted by Franklin Delano Roosevelt."

Neoconservatism, Kristol maintains, is not an ideology but a "persuasion," a way of thinking about politics rather than a compendium of principles and axioms. It is classical rather than romantic in temperament, and practical and anti-Utopian in policy. One of Kristol's most celebrated quips defines a neoconservative as "a liberal who has been mugged by reality." As a former Trotskyist, Irving was indeed himself mugged by the "reality" of conservative philosophy and enfolded leftist policies such as a lack of objection to welfare programs, international "revolution" through nation-building/militarily imposed "democracy" and application of Fabian Socialism/Keynesianism coupled with a socially conservative viewpoint. These concepts lie at the core of neoconservative philosophy to this day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/irving-kristols-neoconservative-persuasion/
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     An Australian socialist is quite the expert on the - Spanky KU - 6/3 09:55:21
     what a short-sighted nitwit like you (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 6/3 09:22:56
          coward (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 09:23:31
               yes you are the board coward. (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 6/3 14:08:05
                    coward (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 15:33:32
     Are they not one in the same? - tcat KC - 6/3 09:05:31
          they aren’t (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 09:10:51
               OK, please name a country that is free and does not - tcat KC - 6/3 09:20:56
                    why? (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 09:23:18
                         I just want to know if ithere is an example of a free - tcat KC - 6/3 09:25:22
                              i don’t agree with your premise - pickle MU - 6/3 09:33:30
                                   Why do you say that instead of saying you don't - tcat KC - 6/3 09:43:47
                                        because i don’t agree with your premise - pickle MU - 6/3 09:52:19
                                             But if everyone followed your philosophy - tcat KC - 6/3 10:01:06
                                                  no (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 10:01:28
          that's the exact argument the neocons have always made - ashtray UF - 6/3 09:09:08
               Is an argument wrong because the people who give it - tcat KC - 6/3 09:22:58
                    if you agree with the argument, then you're a neocon - ashtray UF - 6/3 09:36:46
                         So agreeing with an argument makes you a follower of - tcat KC - 6/3 09:45:28
                              it defines neoconism (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/3 09:46:37
                                   Does that work for other stuff too? - tcat KC - 6/3 09:57:33
                                        is that the foundation of neonazism? - ashtray UF - 6/3 10:03:20
                                             It is since they want to reinstate Nazi ideology. - tcat KC - 6/3 10:16:49
                                                  you’re all over the place again - pickle MU - 6/3 10:25:20
                                                       you are all over the place here - tcat KC - 6/3 10:54:34
                                                            no he didn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 10:58:40
                                                                 RE: no he didn’t (nm) - tcat KC - 6/3 10:59:40
                                                                      i’ve read the thread - pickle MU - 6/3 11:04:44
                                                                           But there is not one fundamental basis of neoconservatism - tcat KC - 6/3 11:30:35
                                                                                Of course there is - pickle MU - 6/3 11:38:23
                                                                                     Did you even read what you posted - tcat KC - 6/3 11:47:20
                                                                                          it still has a foundational philosophy - ashtray UF - 6/3 11:50:00
                                                                                               No it does not. (nm) - tcat KC - 6/3 11:55:43
                                                                                                    yes it does (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/3 12:28:21
                                                                                                    lol ok (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 11:56:36
                                                            false - ashtray UF - 6/3 10:57:47
                                                                 First things first. - tcat KC - 6/3 11:28:46
                                                                      no (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 11:38:41
                                                                      no, it's the foundation (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/3 11:29:49
                                                                           It is not the foundation, it is a means - tcat KC - 6/3 11:37:11
                                                                                there is no emphasis on “free market capitalism” - pickle MU - 6/3 11:39:54
                                                                                     Call me what you want, but saying I am a Neocon - tcat KC - 6/3 11:55:01
                                                                                          you’re being stupid (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 11:56:07
                                                                                               Takes one to know one(nm) - tcat KC - 6/3 11:56:45
                                                  you just contradicted yourself (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/3 10:19:17
                                                       Sucks losing an argument, doesn't it. (nm) - tcat KC - 6/3 10:55:12
                                                            you tell me - ashtray UF - 6/3 10:56:36
                                                                 No you tell me - tcat KC - 6/3 11:35:40
                                                                      now you're just being stupid (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/3 11:49:04
                                                                           Agree with one thing and you are that - tcat KC - 6/3 11:59:54
                                                                                no, but if you believe in the foundational belief system - ashtray UF - 6/3 12:29:38
                                                                      oh good lord (nm) - pickle MU - 6/3 11:44:37
     Sounds like woke caitlin needs a diaper change(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 6/3 08:58:29




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