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Posted on: May 13, 2021 at 13:36:24 CT
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make that conclusion?

When I look at that chart, I see a huge spike in NY before we even knew what we were dealing with. And then after we knew what we were dealing with, a slightly better job by the blue states.

All that said, it's an imperfect chart. Some red states have managed this well. Some blue states have not. And some red states and blue states have gotten lucky or unlucky. If this pandemic has shown anything it's that it's very prone to pouncing on a particular place with a bad outbreak while leaving others alone. Many countries or states have had long stretches of success, only to see large outbreaks now. California has the lowest case rate and death rate per capital in the US and one of the lowest in the world, and yet, with similar policies, had a fairly severe outbreak months ago. I don't think anyone can look at India, Brasil or even New York and say this thing isn't seriously dangerous. Heck, the seasonal flu was almost non-existent last year and we still lost half a million people to Covid (many estimates push that actually closer to a million).

If I were a republican, rather than saying "see, this wasn't so dangerous after all" I would say we've tried to walk a line to balance safety with well being, and we think we've done that well. Our economies are doing better and our case rates are only slightly higher than places that have completely locked down and harmed people's quality of life.
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The lies are remarkable: - ummmm MU - 5/13 08:35:43
     I don't even see the controversy honestly - Doc_Nice MU - 5/13 12:49:00
          Except, the data doesn't support that the "trade off" made - ummmm MU - 5/13 13:12:59
               What part of the chart are you looking at to - Doc_Nice MU - 5/13 13:36:24
     LOL - Wildcat KSU - 5/13 09:47:31
          Imagine Trump ever saying he was not supposed to answer - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:50:08
               R v D (nm) - pickle MU - 5/13 10:04:04
     Serious question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 08:58:16
          well..you are exhibit A(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/13 09:32:43
               Well, you already meated it meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:36:35
          I appreciate all libertarian-minded posters on this Board - ummmm MU - 5/13 09:32:42
               A broken clock is right twice a day - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:35:11
                    How does this Board prove that? It's a discussion board. - ummmm MU - 5/13 10:09:04
                         Just look at two of your disciples - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 10:11:52
                              you backed it up for me just fine - ashtray UF - 5/13 10:15:57
                    you are intellectually dishonest - pickle MU - 5/13 09:38:19
                         and you are totally delusional. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/13 10:25:50
                              I can see why a retarded person would think so - ashtray UF - 5/13 10:26:51
                                   Personal experience, I bet. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/13 11:33:17
                                        sic burn! "I know you are but what am I?" from the board's - ashtray UF - 5/13 11:42:46
                         now you've done it (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:46:27
                              If i believe it to be a fact, then it’s not a lie - 4Tigs - pickle MU - 5/13 09:47:33
                                   the he uses words like plausible - meatiger MU - 5/13 09:51:26
                                        “i was told” (nm) - pickle MU - 5/13 09:51:57
                                             watermarked ballots - meatiger MU - 5/13 09:57:12
                                   lol.. he is truly a piece of work - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:48:30
                                        He is simply not an honest person - pickle MU - 5/13 09:50:31
                                             emotion and talking points (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:51:11
                    He disagrees with about 90% of what you say - meatiger MU - 5/13 09:36:42
                         Choose my side? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:37:59
                              On about every argument you present to him - meatiger MU - 5/13 09:39:38
                                   My post was not about political belief - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:44:24
                                        This is a discussion board - meatiger MU - 5/13 09:50:30
                                             Do you even know what you are talking about? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:51:32
                                        or maybe you're just dishonest and get mad when - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:47:16
               that went over his head(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/13 09:33:23
          dumb premise (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 5/13 09:06:52
               How so? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:08:43
          someone is triggered - ashtray UF - 5/13 08:58:48
     click on the original tweet and look at the - Sal CMSU - 5/13 08:51:26
          COLLUSION! SUBORNED! MUELLER! QUID PRO QUO! - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 08:53:26
     Although not suprising - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 08:45:22
          irony (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 08:49:38
               OK, just to demonstrate to all what a nothing you are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 08:52:35
                    hi (nm) - pickle MU - 5/13 09:35:57
                    RE: OK, just to demonstrate to all what a nothing you are - BH O'bonga MU - 5/13 08:54:13
                         asstray is nothing but a dim witted minion of pickle. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/13 09:10:08
                              RE: asstray is nothing but a dim witted minion of pickle: E - BH O'bonga MU - 5/13 09:40:09
                                   false (nm) - pickle MU - 5/13 09:52:46
                                   For a while I actually disputed that a bit and thought a bit - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:45:50
                                        how dare I disagree with you and call you on your - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:48:00
                                   "everyone" sees you as a dim bulb (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:45:38
                              I decided to engage him in this thread simply as I knew how - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:12:23
                                   That's mean of you. it's like picking on a special needs kid - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/13 09:18:43
                                        Why I did this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 09:24:09
                                             It's almost like you've never ever experienced an "irony" - Toger STL - 5/13 09:29:22
                                             your dishonesty is well known here - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:27:55
                                        says the guy who has to wear a helmet (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:20:48
                                   you mad? (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:15:34
                              your posting history would suggest you have no room to - ashtray UF - 5/13 09:11:36
                         Few can make meat appear mildly intelligent - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 08:56:13
                         projection (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 08:55:34
                    touched a nerve, I see (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 08:53:40
                         See? Nothing of substance from you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/13 08:55:27
                              Bonding with bongo. - Toger STL - 5/13 08:57:24
                              now you're projecting (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/13 08:56:01
               Fry that one up for dinner.(nm) - Toger STL - 5/13 08:50:55




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