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There are no guidelines in discretion

Posted on: March 22, 2021 at 15:20:58 CT
meatiger MU
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from a legal standpoint, so how can you have both consistent Law and Order AND discretion. Those two can never be the same.

You have done a great job of pointing out the flaws of the current system, but then you want to put the onus of discretion to the police to be consistent and call that Law and Order...which is an oxymoron.
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Why do so many "law and order" Rs dislike the Innocence - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:39:23
     I love the Innocence Project, and their companion group - *M* KC - 3/22 15:49:57
     "law and order" is just a political slogan (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 3/22 14:51:11
          and a TV show(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/22 15:05:57
               RE: and a TV show - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/22 15:07:35
     Raise the same money, effort for crime victims - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/22 14:51:04
          NO ONE IS PRETENDING THAT. My God. You - GA Tiger MU - 3/22 18:12:09
          innocent folks who are wrongly convicted are victims (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/22 15:09:14
          ^^^ Example #1, scan ^^^ (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 14:52:00
     Such as?(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/22 14:48:32
          Rhayworth(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:53:53
               then why not say Rhayworth instead of "so many Rs"?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/22 15:05:39
     indoctrination is strong - pickle MU - 3/22 14:45:15
     RE: Why do so many "law and order" Rs dislike the Innocence - MUTGR MU - 3/22 14:44:35
          Why? Brainwashing. Just like nearly all libs are. Just - GA Tiger MU - 3/22 18:14:09
          Idk. That's why I asked the question(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:45:34
     4tigs proved "law and order" is a lie - meatiger MU - 3/22 14:43:00
          That is not what discretion is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 14:43:48
               you are inconsistent because you do not think for yourself - pickle MU - 3/22 14:51:51
               When a law is not equally applied - meatiger MU - 3/22 14:47:46
                    Actually, history would show when everything is applied - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 14:54:00
                         Care to provide examples of this? - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:11:33
                              Look at the frustrations of black Americans when police - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:16:37
                                   There are no guidelines in discretion - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:20:58
                                        And again, you demonstrate the juvenile mindset that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:23:26
                                             How can it mean anything else? - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:26:13
                                                  For the same reason that while my children have/had general - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:28:43
                                                       Not really. When I was in high school, I used that same - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:32:59
                                                            It sounds like it worked without there being many issues - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:33:54
                                                                 I continued to break their law. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:36:10
                                                                      It appears you don't know what order is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:37:14
                                                                           LOL - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:42:27
                                                                                And gladly so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:45:47
                                                                                     Then willful ignorance it is. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:50:50
                                                                                          The strict adherence to the law is when required to maintain - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 17:51:01
                                                                                               Lol, youre just making up your own definitions - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 18:30:17
                                                                                                    Why would a need a poster here to say anything? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 18:58:10
                                                                                                         Provide a link or anything. I’ve given you textbook - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 19:01:02
                                                                                                              What more do you need than decades of police work - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 20:29:29
                                                       A parent/child relationship is very different - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:30:35
                                                            It is law and order - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:31:39
                                   LOL, that's the opposite side of your argument. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:20:30
                                        Everyone would be frustrated if that occurred - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:25:48
                                             You cannot articulate your point, because you don't know - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:29:37
                                                  He surely supports that drug and immigration laws - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:31:24
                                             I would content there would be two things - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:27:42
                                   not when they only use the letter of the law to pull - ashtray UF - 3/22 15:19:39
                         Lmfao (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 14:58:55
               Okay, I'll bite. How is that not discretion? (nm) - ummmm MU - 3/22 14:47:22
                    Discretion is the understanding that the purpose of a law is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 14:53:10
                         Actually...what you are pointing out - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:05:10
                              I would agree with you in that we have far too many - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:07:22
                                   And when you add in the fact that - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:17:54
                                        You contend law and order is all about rigid adherence - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:21:06
                                             it actually demonstrates that you don't - ashtray UF - 3/22 15:24:26
                         It all sounds like officer discretion in choosing which laws - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:02:10
                              And to the point I made and that meat disagrees with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:05:07
                                   It depends if you are on the wrong receiving side of that - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:10:59
                                        Correct, and it is why the sheriff near my church let us - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:19:45
                                             But what about 15 people? Is that when "proper discretion" - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:24:41
                                                  It would depend on the space in the room - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:26:35
                                                       But that is not the rule of law. That is the rule of that - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:29:31
                                                            Yes, that is the point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:33:04
                                                                 It didn't maintain order. It allowed, and even encouraged, - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:34:51
                                                                      We worshipped, no one got sick, the sheriff was not involved - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:36:10
                                                                           Setting aside what "order" means in the term "Law and Order" - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:38:24
                                                                                And that is a different discussion and a worthy one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:41:03
                                                                                     No, that is not what "order" in regards to "law and - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:44:06
                                                                           You were breaking the law. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:37:36
                                                                                Respect for - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:39:12
                                                                                     What is the word after "respect for"? - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:40:29
                                                                                Yeah, "Order" in "Law and Order" doesn't mean - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:39:11
                                                                                     Exactly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:42:20
                                                                                          No. Ummmm was not agreeing with you. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:43:08
                                                                                               No, order in law and order is about maintaining - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:46:41
                                                                                                    begging the question (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 15:53:34
                                                                                                    No, it's about maintaining the Laws in an orderly fashion. - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:52:24
                                                                                                    No it's not at all. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:48:58
                                                                                                         When required to maintain order - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 17:54:12
                                                                                                              No, thats you making up definitions. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 18:26:52
                                                                                                                   No, that is what all good law enforcement personnel have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 18:30:34
                                                                                                                        The conversation is not what is good law enforcement. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 19:03:25
                                                                                     Enforced, and more importantly, followed. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:42:12
                                                            Nor is it order because you now have a group of people - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:31:01
                                             No, that's not the point. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:22:47
                                             It is a rejection of the law - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:21:54
                                        Exactly - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:15:31
                                   One cannot claim to be for “law and order” - pickle MU - 3/22 15:10:16
                                   That is simply untrue - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:05:48
                                        Barney Fife is a perfect example of what you would claim - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:09:21
                                             Barney Fife is a piece of fiction from a tv show (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 15:10:49
                                                  explains a lot (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/22 15:23:41
                                                  lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 15:17:18
                                                  lol (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:13:04
                         You just supported what meat said (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 14:55:47
     Do you have any names? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 14:42:51
     RE: Why do so many "law and order" Rs dislike the Innocence - scan MU - 3/22 14:42:06
          he’s not projecting (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 15:00:21
          What am I projecting? I love that organization (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:43:34
               RE: What am I projecting? I love that organization (nm) - scan MU - 3/22 14:47:22
                    You're accusing him of a possible false premise - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:03:28
                    I have observed it to be very true and wonder why those that - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:50:27




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