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Rights are a social construct. Pizzle and the boys refuse
Posted on: February 18, 2021 at 10:59:42 CT
DHighlander
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The Constitution: universal rights. Class in session
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:36:10
take it a step further-rather than "derived from nature"
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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2/18 13:57:11
that makes no sense
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pickle
MU
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2/18 17:10:47
nature lol (nm)
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TigerFan92
STL
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2/18 11:51:28
Be sure and let Xi know everyone in china has rights.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 10:57:00
You and Xi have that in common
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:00:41
You don't realize that my statement sadly proves that's true
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:11:18
^ "bad people infringe on the rights of others, therefore,
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 11:27:59
It's hard to keep it simple enough for you to understand.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:33:02
I’ll give you credit: you’re engaging and trying (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:50:02
yeah, understanding your complex position is a real
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 11:40:02
maybe you're projecting again (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:37:52
i doubt anyone misunderstands your position (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:37:46
Please share with us all, how natural rights stops Xi's army
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:39:57
^^hokie 2.0(nm)
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Panthera
MU
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2/18 11:48:14
If you had an army that was focused on defending
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meatiger
MU
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2/18 11:46:09
So, a natural rights militia.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:48:36
If you have an outside threat
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meatiger
MU
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2/18 11:59:38
holy shyt, you're retarded (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:50:38
they don’t (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:45:07
they don't and nobody claims they do (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 11:40:31
Thanks 90. So, your rights only exist when everyone agrees.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:46:37
no, rights are inherent, but they may be infringed upon
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 11:52:12
In a society without any law enforcement, pretty much yes.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 12:01:01
Why wouldn’t you be able to get your lawnmower?
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pickle
MU
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2/18 12:12:32
To quote you, "Why are you so stupid?".
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 12:17:03
no rhay, it is your lawnmower (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 12:20:48
No, that would not be infringing upon my rights
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pickle
MU
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2/18 12:20:05
pickle (an anarchist) and other libertarians who think
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 12:09:46
Has Pickle ever suggested there would be no law
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meatiger
MU
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2/18 12:01:37
no, but RHAY is too dim to understand the difference
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 12:04:54
no, that’s incorrect (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:49:12
Based on what exactly? Your own "feelings"?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:50:07
Based on natural rights being inherent to humankind
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:51:35
incorrect (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:47:57
Ok, when the boot hits your face, your rights still exist.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:49:27
yes (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 11:52:30
correct (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:50:26
Lol. That sure seems a solid platform to build a society.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:54:39
i agree. It’s a solid foundation for society
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pickle
MU
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2/18 12:11:00
the US was founded on natural rights, rhay, and nobody
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 12:10:36
yeah, those founders were so stupid (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:57:03
it's the retardation (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:29:20
so we should kill everyone
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meatiger
MU
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2/18 11:22:01
another sad failure. didn't say that. You did.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:34:24
It was....
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meatiger
MU
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2/18 11:37:17
so much irony (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:36:46
lol (nm)
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mizzouSECedes
STL
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2/18 11:27:19
the only thing your statement proves
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:19:43
so you're saying it is ok to kill someone for their stuff?
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:19:24
another said failure. Didn't say that.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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2/18 11:36:42
natural rights addresses it, and you even recognize it
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:46:35
Who denied that people kill others?
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meatiger
MU
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2/18 11:38:49
and since people will kill, then there is no right to life
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:38:37
You can't fix stoopid, man.
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jonesin
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2/18 11:14:47
Any "right" is technically artificial in that it is created
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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2/18 10:48:50
Rights are a social construct. Pizzle and the boys refuse
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:59:42
again, the topic is the Constitution
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:03:26
No, I was responding to Rags and his post was addressing
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:13:29
He also acknowledged the Constitutional argument
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:21:07
I did not read your constitutional argument as it was based
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:24:06
don’t blame others for your faults and laziness (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:32:31
It is not lazy to refuse to read nonsense. As I said if you
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:40:23
the premise is about the constitution
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:47:40
rags' post also addressed the constitution (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/18 11:18:07
As I just told Pizzle, I chose to respond to the first of
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:25:17
“you always resort to name calling”
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:33:49
"derived from nature" = biology?
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glue
MU
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2/18 10:41:03
I have been asking them this same question for
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:45:17
I wouldn't assume everyone else is as dumb as you, DH.
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:51:56
Then present your proof. You always resort to name
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:57:35
now you're projecting (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:20:19
"you always resort to name calling" lol dh (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/18 10:59:20
Yes I call you all names, you are fools. But I do not call
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:11:55
lol (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:21:35
can you share an example of one of my idiotic views
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/18 11:15:52
humans as a species have an inherent ability
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:44:44
Why is half the population
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Wildcat
KSU
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2/18 11:04:16
Discovered? Where exactly are they discovered?
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:46:49
was God created or discovered? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:53:45
Can you prove he exists? Belief in God is an article of
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:58:54
why do you feel the desire to defend yourself
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:23:07
You mean my property that the county recognizes as mine
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:31:00
no, I'm not saying that at all
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:32:34
No I simply don't believe in your concept of rights. And
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:42:44
so if we are in a country where right to life isn't codfied
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:49:48
Rights are what you can secure. Without a strong govt
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:56:20
rights are only that which can be secured? then there
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 12:12:18
false
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:58:42
No I have said I agree with the founders, but they believe
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 12:05:06
you don't agree with the founders at all; hell, you don't
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 12:21:50
you don’t agree with them (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 12:13:51
lol, agree but disagree (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/18 12:07:33
where have I denied nature?
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 12:05:45
Did I say you denied nature. Nature is not the same as a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 12:09:03
yes, it's the same thing
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 12:49:28
You do realize that calling something natural does not, in
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 13:28:12
3 + x = 12
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pickle
MU
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2/18 13:45:03
now we're back to your right to life
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 13:36:50
oh, dear (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 12:28:22
so, what are the rights you believe in? (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 11:46:36
It's not a far jump to presume god or intelligence
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glue
MU
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2/18 10:50:05
which is totally fine and not incongruent (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:01:43
That is because the belief in natural rights is actually a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:55:14
false (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:23:30
I think you can have it both ways; just don't call
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glue
MU
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2/18 10:59:28
Do they innately have that right? Or did your belief
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:15:25
Nothing is innate to man until man determines
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glue
MU
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2/18 11:17:17
Which seems to agree with my position that rights are a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:21:18
lol, wut?
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:42:56
You assume natural rights as a premise. Prove that they
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:40:41
try to discuss the topic, please (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:53:08
Your topic has a flawed premise. As I stated I did not
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:19:39
The premise is about the constitution (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:22:49
Try again. Here is the first sentence in your argument.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:34:47
it’s not my fault you didn’t pay attention (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 11:48:17
try setting that aside and focus on the rest of it
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/18 10:50:10
RE: The Constitution: universal rights. Class in session
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MOCO SON
MU
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2/18 10:37:58
so you're argument is "it's not possible to be an expert
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:42:03
He does not believe them to be valid. But of course you
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:44:14
irrelevant (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:25:08
that's not being pedantic
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/18 10:48:43
Only when dealing with the terminally stupid. No one
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:50:48
you're having a bad day
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ashtray
UF
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2/18 11:25:35
he's not really, this is every day for DH (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 11:47:16
moco did precisely that in his post, DH. Again, stop
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:52:50
no one here was making personal attacks
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:52:25
and? the point is that many do think it’s valid
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:47:23
"believe" is the wrong word entirely. He doesn't believe
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:46:36
And everyone knew exactly what Moco was saying.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 10:48:50
i wouldn’t presume
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:54:08
You don't speak for everyone, you don't speak for me (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:53:25
Then please let me rephrase. Everyone with a functional
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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2/18 11:58:21
RE: so you're argument is "it's not possible to be an expert
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MOCO SON
MU
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2/18 10:42:58
what approach to life? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:45:49
Why? he was born in the US, is subject to its laws and
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:45:13
i'm pretty sure he believes govt exists moco (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/18 10:39:59
RE: i'm pretty sure he believes govt exists moco (nm)
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MOCO SON
MU
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2/18 10:41:02
that's better, but not what you said the first time (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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2/18 10:42:41
correct and he knows gvmt exists. there is no "belief" invo
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:42:36
RE: correct and he knows gvmt exists. there is no "belief" invo
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MOCO SON
MU
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2/18 10:44:54
again, acknowledging gvmt exists and stating it is
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 10:48:42
RE: again, acknowledging gvmt exists and stating it is
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MOCO SON
MU
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2/18 12:11:50
No it isn’t (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 12:38:40
not in the least (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/18 12:22:38
and? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:45:16
and? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/18 10:42:25