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It is clear. But that is also proof texting a single verse

Posted on: November 9, 2020 at 14:49:30 CT
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outside of the context of the first century to say God appoints all rulers personally.

It ignores the history of violent Jewish revolts against governments that went wrong because God did not bless them. Look what happened a decade after Paul wrote Romans? The Jews revolted against the Roman empire and Jerusalem was destroyed. They didn't listen to Paul. The new congregations did.

It ignores the guidance of Romans 12 how to deal with persecutors, like the Roman Empire. It is a warning from Paul to the congregations to not be violent revolutionaries against governments, but trust in God as God has authority above all.

Edited by TigerMatt at 14:51:04 on 11/09/20
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     Maybe dude is in a rush to get to end times. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 11/9 14:17:33
     Whut? People actually believe that Trump and even Biden - bactgr MU - 11/9 14:12:23
     God gave us a chance and we blew it. Thanks to stupid - Emoji Man MSU - 11/9 14:11:17
          The faith you suggest you have in trump is impressive.(nm) - Toger STL - 11/9 14:15:01
               The ignorance you take when it comes to Trump is... - JayRoy KC - 11/9 14:46:33
     yes, yes. see below(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/9 14:05:12
          no, no unless you also believe God handpicked Hitler, Mao - TigerMatt STL - 11/9 14:20:01
               he did(nm) - dangertim MU - 11/9 21:09:59
     I'm guessing Russia got him there - Sal MU - 11/9 14:04:37
          Holy crap, I just put this together. - kmawv8 MU - 11/9 14:06:56
               RE: Holy crap, I just put this together. - dangertim MU - 11/9 14:13:04
                    I'd let her interrogate me (nm) - Sal MU - 11/9 14:14:23
     Is God an American or Russian? - Ace AU - 11/9 14:02:53
     Romans 13:1 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/9 14:01:25
          That doesn't mean God hand picked Trump and now Biden* - TigerMatt STL - 11/9 14:18:55
               Explain that within the context of this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/9 14:24:49
                    Read the end of Romans 12 to put it into better context.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/9 14:34:07
                         It really changes nothing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/9 14:37:45
                              You made the claim God personally appointed Trump. - TigerMatt STL - 11/9 14:40:26
                    Like I said above. Think God appointed Hitler? Stalin? Pol - TigerMatt STL - 11/9 14:32:43
                         No authority is appointed outside of his hand - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/9 14:34:57
                              You are missing the point completely being too literalist. - TigerMatt STL - 11/9 14:39:17
                                   I disagree wholeheartedly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/9 14:43:10
                                        It is clear. But that is also proof texting a single verse - TigerMatt STL - 11/9 14:49:30
                                             God hand picked David, yet at times kept David - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/9 14:58:35
                    I'll expain it - Iam4Mizzou MU - 11/9 14:29:51
               You didn't think he was going to answer did you? Or - Toger STL - 11/9 14:24:29




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