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I am very much against forced vaccines, but some of the info
Posted on: July 10, 2020 at 18:08:50 CT
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he gave sounded questionable so I went to the sources he linked to. From a preliminary preview it looks like he's not giving an accurate description of the studies he's summarizing.
Some of the links weren't in your cut & paste, which is understandable, but they are in the original article you were quoting from:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/no_author/forced-vaccination-plan-unveiled/
One of the quotes:
Using data from prior flu-vaccine studies(1), about 1% of those vaccinated may require hospitalization after vaccination and 1% of the hospitalized (1 in 200) would die (2), which would result in 32,800 needless deaths that would likely be blamed on the COVID-19 coronavirus.
1). https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/4/1/ofx001/2895924
2. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032
He seemed to imply that 1% of those vaccinated may require hospitalization because of the vaccination... eg. 1% more than would have been the case with a control group. But it wasn't clear, so I went to the original source there as well.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any place in that article (1) he uses to back up his assertion. If anything it implied the opposite:
Influenza vaccination in adults ≥65 years (hereby referred to as elderly) decreases the incidence of clinical disease and might reduce the risk of secondary complications, hospitalization, and death related to influenza [5–12]. However, the elderly may have reduced immune response to the vaccine and protection when compared with healthy younger adults [13, 14].
The article had tables (2) on side effects but only listed 3 people (.6%) with the standard dose who had a reaction strong enough to see their primary care physician, go to urgent care or at a hospital. Table 3 listed the side effects:
Table 2) https://academic.oup.com/view-large/112334065
Table 3) https://academic.oup.com/view-large/112334067
From table 2, 96% of the people said they felt the same or better in the week after the vaccination. Of those with symptoms, most had a sore arm. 6% of the standard dose patients said they had a systemic response, fever, headache, fatigue, or myalgia. >90% categorized their symptoms as mild to moderate. 2 had severe systemic symptom (any of the above). That would be .4%. That would be 40% of the 1% that Bill Sardi had claimed were "hospitalizations", though I don't know where he got that from the article he linked to. It did not say that ANY of them were hospitalized. Of those with symptoms, there was no comparison to any control group. 1 or 2 people might have already been infected with the flu or some other illness BEFORE they got the vaccine.
I searched the article for "hosp". There were 2 instances of hospitalizations in the article & 2 in the footnotes. Both instances in the article not only didn't back up his hypothesis, but in fact assumed the exact opposite:
Influenza vaccination in adults ≥65 years (hereby referred to as elderly) decreases the incidence of clinical disease and might reduce the risk of secondary complications, hospitalization, and death related to influenza [5–12].
and
Compared with SD vaccine, the HD vaccine has also been shown to provide enhanced clinical protection against influenza disease and decreased influenza-related medical encounters and hospitalizations [20, 21].
The first link in the footnotes was an article about increased hospitalizations during flu epidemics. The 2nd was about how vaccines REDUCED the number of hospitalizations:
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/184/6/665/841892
Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness in Preventing Hospitalizations and Deaths in Persons 65 Years or Older in Minnesota, New York, and Oregon: Data from 3 Health Plans
...The virus-vaccine match was excellent for year 1 and fair for year 2. Both years, during peak and total periods, vaccination reduced all causes of death and hospitalization for pneumonia and influenza: hospitalizations were reduced by 19%–20% and 18%–24% for years 1 and 2, respectively, and deaths were reduced by 60%–61% and 35%–39% for the same periods. These results show that all elderly persons should be immunized annually for influenza. The methods used in this study are an efficient cost-effective way to study vaccine impact and similar questions
I think his earlier analysis was suspect, but I'm not going to bother to research it. His credibility is already shot from my point of view. I would look for more reliable sources.
Some of the links weren't in your cut & paste, which is understandable, but they are in the original article you were quoting from:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/no_author/forced-vaccination-plan-unveiled/
One of the quotes:
Using data from prior flu-vaccine studies(1), about 1% of those vaccinated may require hospitalization after vaccination and 1% of the hospitalized (1 in 200) would die (2), which would result in 32,800 needless deaths that would likely be blamed on the COVID-19 coronavirus.
1). https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/4/1/ofx001/2895924
2. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032
He seemed to imply that 1% of those vaccinated may require hospitalization because of the vaccination... eg. 1% more than would have been the case with a control group. But it wasn't clear, so I went to the original source there as well.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any place in that article (1) he uses to back up his assertion. If anything it implied the opposite:
Influenza vaccination in adults ≥65 years (hereby referred to as elderly) decreases the incidence of clinical disease and might reduce the risk of secondary complications, hospitalization, and death related to influenza [5–12]. However, the elderly may have reduced immune response to the vaccine and protection when compared with healthy younger adults [13, 14].
The article had tables (2) on side effects but only listed 3 people (.6%) with the standard dose who had a reaction strong enough to see their primary care physician, go to urgent care or at a hospital. Table 3 listed the side effects:
Table 2) https://academic.oup.com/view-large/112334065
Table 3) https://academic.oup.com/view-large/112334067
From table 2, 96% of the people said they felt the same or better in the week after the vaccination. Of those with symptoms, most had a sore arm. 6% of the standard dose patients said they had a systemic response, fever, headache, fatigue, or myalgia. >90% categorized their symptoms as mild to moderate. 2 had severe systemic symptom (any of the above). That would be .4%. That would be 40% of the 1% that Bill Sardi had claimed were "hospitalizations", though I don't know where he got that from the article he linked to. It did not say that ANY of them were hospitalized. Of those with symptoms, there was no comparison to any control group. 1 or 2 people might have already been infected with the flu or some other illness BEFORE they got the vaccine.
I searched the article for "hosp". There were 2 instances of hospitalizations in the article & 2 in the footnotes. Both instances in the article not only didn't back up his hypothesis, but in fact assumed the exact opposite:
Influenza vaccination in adults ≥65 years (hereby referred to as elderly) decreases the incidence of clinical disease and might reduce the risk of secondary complications, hospitalization, and death related to influenza [5–12].
and
Compared with SD vaccine, the HD vaccine has also been shown to provide enhanced clinical protection against influenza disease and decreased influenza-related medical encounters and hospitalizations [20, 21].
The first link in the footnotes was an article about increased hospitalizations during flu epidemics. The 2nd was about how vaccines REDUCED the number of hospitalizations:
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/184/6/665/841892
Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness in Preventing Hospitalizations and Deaths in Persons 65 Years or Older in Minnesota, New York, and Oregon: Data from 3 Health Plans
...The virus-vaccine match was excellent for year 1 and fair for year 2. Both years, during peak and total periods, vaccination reduced all causes of death and hospitalization for pneumonia and influenza: hospitalizations were reduced by 19%–20% and 18%–24% for years 1 and 2, respectively, and deaths were reduced by 60%–61% and 35%–39% for the same periods. These results show that all elderly persons should be immunized annually for influenza. The methods used in this study are an efficient cost-effective way to study vaccine impact and similar questions
I think his earlier analysis was suspect, but I'm not going to bother to research it. His credibility is already shot from my point of view. I would look for more reliable sources.
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I am very much against forced vaccines, but some of the info - JeffB MU - 7/10 18:08:50