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Posted on: May 8, 2020 at 10:25:41 CT
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on what you should be saying or not saying, so dispense with the pretense.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you can identify if a car is driving far in excess of the speed limit. You can make the determination that it's breaking the law. It doesn't mean to assume the extreme and automatically fine, jail, or otherwise penalize without due process.

It's possible to identify a criminal act has taken place AND believe in a trial. They aren't exclusive. I stated that a criminal act has taken place, and you decided that argument by extreme ("Just put them in jail, right!") was your best response.

Either you think a criminal act has taken place, or you do not. The assumption of innocence (among other things) will guarantee the right to a fair trial.
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Ahmaud Arbery' Mother was initially - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 08:45:33
     Didn't the dude run up to the vacant home and look into - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/8 08:48:25
          So execute him - MrBlueSky MU - 5/8 09:16:20
               lol so much emotion (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/8 09:35:53
                    Emotion got a jogger killed... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:49:41
                         Yup, it's a sad deal (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/8 10:43:35
               LOL from the board retard. rich (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 5/8 09:34:59
               Obviously not (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 09:30:04
               Nobody said that - Sal MU - 5/8 09:23:03
               You know he played tug of war with someone with a long gun, - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/8 09:19:51
                    You know they had him boxed in, right? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:32:55
                         Running up to a guy with a gun and trying to wrestle it away - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/8 09:42:35
                              The other option was being - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:47:27
                                   It seems as though the shooting only started when the victim - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/8 09:49:30
                                        They had been trying to get him - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:52:36
               Nowhere in my post did I suggest that - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/8 09:19:43
                    "didn't the dude look in some vacant home" - MrBlueSky MU - 5/8 09:23:17
                         you are seriously illiterate if you think that in any - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/8 09:26:19
                              he just read the headline...just like the articles he posts(nm) - dangertim MU - 5/8 09:27:02
                         Looks like you just read the headline of his post. - dangertim MU - 5/8 09:25:08
                    We say things like assumption of innocence, due process - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:20:55
                         Amazing, isn't it?(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/8 09:21:54
                              LOL uhhh you're not somebody who believes in any of that - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:25:14
                                   It doesn't matter what I think - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/8 09:50:47
                              Given enough time, people reveal who they truly are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:22:25
                                   I'll agree with that(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:23:04
                                        And you don't believe in constitutionally protected rights - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:23:39
                                             No shame in my game. I'm proud to say I'm not - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:26:01
                                                  you're exhibiting exactly the behaviors and thoughts you - 90Tiger STL - 5/8 09:33:04
                                                  The shame is that you think refusing to protect - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:28:09
                                                       You are defending people who don't deserve it - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:31:13
                                                            So who deserves constitutionally protected rights and who - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:36:27
                                                                 Everyone does, but that's not what this is about - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:43:28
                                                                      That is what this discussion is about - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:46:07
                                                                           Everybody deserves due process - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:49:51
                                                                                No, you said by declaring they deserve their protected right - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:52:43
                                                                                     You are backing the horse you choose to back - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:55:13
                                                                                          I backed constitutionally protected rights - you disagree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:56:07
                                                                                               Ok dude - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 10:00:34
                                                                                                    You are the one making the accusation - show me where I - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 10:02:32
                                                            he's not defending anyone. he's defending rights (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/8 09:34:53
                                                            Dude. Please. Stop. He’s embarrassing the shlt out of you. - Emoji Man MSU - 5/8 09:32:43
               Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!!! Time in this - playhard NWMSU - 5/8 09:19:02
          Where in the world did you hear that?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 5/8 08:53:22
               I actually read it in the CNN write up(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/8 08:55:55
               Well, it wasn't The Atlantic (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/8 08:54:12
          No, stooge...now go back to peddling your 75,000 suicides - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 08:53:02
          You're just dumb(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 08:49:27
               Fyi. Joes is closed due to frightened, economic illiterate - Emoji Man MSU - 5/8 09:12:29
                    What Joe's is closed? (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:19:57
                         The one that that dumb fvck apparently wants to eat at. - Emoji Man MSU - 5/8 09:21:14
                              Which is? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:26:02
                                   Which is what? - Emoji Man MSU - 5/8 09:33:36
                                        Which Joes? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:40:45
                                             He's too dumb to understand such questions(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:45:27
                                                  Oh I know that nm - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:48:20
                                                       You give a hard hitting interrogation. - Emoji Man MSU - 5/8 09:56:00
               And one of the biggest liars on this board - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 08:56:19
               So you can't dispute any of the facts huh waterhead? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/8 08:51:37
                    I stand by what I said before, you are just dumb(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:02:27
                         as do I, you are a waterhead(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/8 09:02:51
     If those men did indeed break the law they should pay the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 08:46:39
          They broke the law. - DC Jayhawk KU - 5/8 09:58:05
               So no point in having a trial then - right? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 10:00:01
                    There should always be a trial, - DC Jayhawk KU - 5/8 10:05:10
                         There is no ambiguity in assumption of innocence - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 10:08:26
                              You're not at a loss for words - DC Jayhawk KU - 5/8 10:25:41
                                   It does not matter what I think - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 10:52:15
                                        The process was never the question. - DC Jayhawk KU - 5/8 12:15:39
          “If those men did indeed” - ivan drago MU - 5/8 08:52:08
               As an African American, I can tell you that white privilege - Emoji Man MSU - 5/8 09:17:04
                    You're as black as I am douche nugget(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:19:18
                         ^^^obviously a response meant for ivan^^^(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/8 09:21:26
                         F you racist. - Emoji Man MSU - 5/8 09:20:09
               I believe in due process, in assumption of innocence - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 08:53:58
                    no, youre just incredibly racist - ivan drago MU - 5/8 08:55:45
                         Is it "racist" to think you should believe one account - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 09:09:35
                              Hands up don't shoot!(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/8 09:14:23
                              Believe on account without evidence - ivan drago MU - 5/8 09:14:00
                                   What video are you looking at, and what are you seeing - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 09:18:07
                              OK, so apparently seeing is NOT believing - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:13:55
                                   The "did he physically injure someone" question is - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 09:20:00
                                        I haven't seen any reports of the guy physically injuring - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:24:44
                                             Exactly...and there isn't even a burglary or police report - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:37:31
                                             The extent (or even presence) of injury is not known - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 09:28:59
                                                  You mean the document prepared by the killer's ex boss, - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:45:52
                                                       Are you paying attention to the statutes cited in that - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 10:05:45
                                                            No! His opinion is biased and meaningless... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 10:12:27
                                                                 Good grief (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 10:34:24
                                                  Wow, so the poor bastard defends himself with his bare - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:33:37
                                                       It’s unclear who was defending himself here - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 09:36:16
                                                            So the black dude on foot was probably chasing the 2 - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:47:18
                                                                 There’s a possibility that he initiated the physicality (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 5/8 10:04:19
                                             Why would it matter? You have already declared them guilty - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:26:21
                                                  The guy NOT killing, raping or physically injuring anyone - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:29:59
                                                       I will side with our constitution - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:31:16
                                                            So you actually think I'm saying those 2 DBs shouldn't stand - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:35:19
                                                                 So you tell us, what are you saying with all of this? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:42:59
                                                                      I addressed it above(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:52:07
                                                                           No, you didn't - you are trying to make it about me - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:54:16
                                                                 You are saying they don't deserve assumption of innocence - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:37:32
                                   So is it your contention we should just sentence them to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:15:59
                                        No, I'm just saying you might not want to back this horse(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:16:59
                                             Who am I backing? Do tell and show me where I did it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:17:54
                                                  When you say "If those men did indeed break the law" - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 09:20:44
                                                       So you don't believe in assumption of innocence, burden - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:21:49
                                                            if the shooters were black, and victim was white.. - ivan drago MU - 5/8 09:25:42
                                                                 I have always said what I say here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:29:20
                         lol you are such an idiot(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/8 09:00:57
                         Constitutionally protected rights are not racist - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 08:56:51
          Did you see the video? - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 08:48:45
               The video looks bad - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 08:49:58
                    Due process is great, but if it wasn't for some random guy - eatatjoes MU - 5/8 08:59:25
                         There is no perfect system - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:04:41
                              “Have a chance to get to the facts”.. - ivan drago MU - 5/8 09:09:18
                                   Due process is just so inconvenient when you are already - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:13:18
                                        ^so racist he doesn’t believe a video of the incident.. - ivan drago MU - 5/8 09:15:41
                                             So is it your contention when we have a video we believe - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:16:41
                                             Who doesn't believe the video? (nm) - Sal MU - 5/8 09:16:02
                         They weren't arrested until the video was - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:03:21
                              Who has said it's a coincidence? (nm) - Sal MU - 5/8 09:04:23
                                   I did. - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:12:28
                                   He’s being sarcastic - ivan drago MU - 5/8 09:07:43
                                        And those people had to first - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:16:11
                                             business as usual for them - ivan drago MU - 5/8 09:23:59
                                                  It happens too often (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:31:38
                                                  And think of how many times black people have killed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/8 09:25:03
                                                       Rarely, extremely rarely, when their identities are known (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/8 09:30:08
                                        I know what he's saying (nm) - Sal MU - 5/8 09:08:52
               from the video alone, nothing seems legal about it (nm) - Sal MU - 5/8 08:49:40




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