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I don't know why this is so hard to understand

Posted on: April 22, 2020 at 08:54:08 CT
BigDave MU
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Trump said it shows promise. It does. There are some studies that show it being effective, and some not so effective (like the VA study). Until the randomized control studies are done, we just don't know. Trump, and all his advisors, have been crystal clear about this the entire time.

But this is drug we know everything about. We know the side effects. We know who should take and who shouldn't. We know when people should stop taking it if they have certain side effects. Trump has been clear about this the entire time.

In a pandemic, when there is no cure and no hope for one, is it really bad to give this a try? As Trump has said, there really isn't any risk in trying it for those individuals that can take it (see previous paragraph). No one is saying it should blindly be given to every patient, but I trust the doctors to make the right decision about who should and shouldn't take it. I don't think that should be left up to some bureaucrat to say it can't be given just because Trump said you should consider it. That is wrong and dangerous.

And yes, I am aware of the VA study. It has no more scientific validity that the other studies that have shown it to have promise. But it is funny to me the minions have latched on to this one saying it is gospel while saying out of their other mouth that the other studies aren't valid because they are no randomized control studies. It makes your argument incredibly weak, and reeks of political motives.
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Whiff on hydroxychloroquine - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 06:54:53
     I don't know why this is so hard to understand - BigDave MU - 4/22 08:54:08
          your last paragraph says it best. This study is no better - dangertim MU - 4/22 09:00:07
               NU UH!!! YOU'RE IGNORING SCIENCE!!! SCIENCE DENIER!!! - phrejd MU - 4/22 09:50:33
     Whiff on the need for a national shelter in place order(nm) - Eggs MU - 4/22 08:36:31
          thank you Dr. Eggs (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:42:21
               Don’t be mad(nm) - Eggs MU - 4/22 08:45:12
     It’s not that fvcking complicated - alwaysright MU - 4/22 08:30:13
          The VA administered a study of the drug to patients with - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:36:48
               The VA. There you have it - alwaysright MU - 4/22 08:44:00
               why don't you explain the methodology and conclusions of the - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:41:05
                    RE: why don't you explain the methodology and conclusions of the - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:42:04
                         Was the drug given randomly or only to the most severe cases - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/22 09:20:19
                              RE: Was the drug given randomly or only to the most severe cases - dangertim MU - 4/22 09:23:41
                         that is not the methodology, no conclusions and you didn't - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:43:18
          RE: It’s not that fvcking complicated - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 08:31:53
               Oh a study says! We're supposed to believe that one study - tigerNkc MU - 4/22 08:37:56
                    RE: Oh a study says! We're supposed to believe that one study - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:38:40
                         explain the limitations of retrospective studies, parrot(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:42:15
                              RE: explain the limitations of retrospective studies, parrot(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:42:48
                         RE: Oh a study says! We're supposed to believe that one study - tigerNkc MU - 4/22 08:41:16
     you sure riled people up with this post(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 4/22 08:16:37
          And if you notice those who are upset with the OP - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:18:46
               Or just people who think Iam is an unfunny retard - Cosmo MU - 4/22 08:30:36
               heaven forbid the president offers a med that would help, - tigerNkc MU - 4/22 08:29:22
                    Preposterous times that such a statement doesn't - FIJItiger MU - 4/22 08:44:01
                         LOL - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/22 09:14:52
                    I don't think any non-medical professional should offer - kmawv8 MU - 4/22 08:39:39
                         get outta here with that crazy talk(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:41:26
                    RE: heaven forbid the president offers a med that would help, - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:31:54
               once again, you are lying. #broken(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:25:06
     I assume if you are Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity - FIJItiger MU - 4/22 08:13:20
          Pot/Kettle????? nm - Sarazen KC - 4/22 11:46:17
          Did you major in armchair psychoanalysis? - Reagan STL - 4/22 08:18:17
               Ya, its really complicated to figure out - FIJItiger MU - 4/22 08:20:54
                    You're excessively partisan and aren't mature enough to - Reagan STL - 4/22 08:27:40
                         Jesus Crist, there is nothing political about any - FIJItiger MU - 4/22 08:31:42
                              jfc(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 4/22 08:38:33
                                   I left off the f'ing part, out of respect for the religious(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/22 08:40:26
          Fox" only pretends to believe these things on TV for money." - TexJohnson MU - 4/22 08:15:10
               I think 65% of them are truly fundamentally stupid people - FIJItiger MU - 4/22 08:19:37
                    Yes, you really are that stupid. - Reagan STL - 4/22 08:22:31
                         Depending upon one's perspective it is either sad or amusing - FIJItiger MU - 4/22 08:25:54
                              lol - mizzouSECedes STL - 4/22 09:06:39
                         Derps here so readily call others retarded, a projection. - TexJohnson MU - 4/22 08:24:42
                              The ability to name call and project but the inability to - Reagan STL - 4/22 08:30:47
                                   Literally one post before you responded that - FIJItiger MU - 4/22 08:55:08
     Says you - part of the left wing propaganda machine - Reagan STL - 4/22 08:07:07
     At least we're now suing china, so we will recoup some of - playhard NWMSU - 4/22 07:38:17
          Money has already been wasted in regards to COVID-19 - Sal MU - 4/22 07:40:37
     Fight propoganda with your equally ****ty propoganda - dangertim MU - 4/22 07:29:47
          It was a study administered by the VA - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:19:43
               what is "it"? There was nothing the retard lawyer about "it" - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:34:41
                    you sure are good at looking up meaningless TB posts - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:37:40
                         Is that the only takeaway from the study? (nm) - Sal MU - 4/22 08:38:37
                              RE: Is that the only takeaway from the study? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:38:52
                                   that's the ap's takeaway. Post the author's conclusion (nm) - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:44:00
                                        RE: that's the ap's takeaway. Post the author's conclusion (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:44:51
                                             read the last sentence(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:45:27
                                                  I did. Yet - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:46:53
                                                       yes, he's a clown. Don't sink to his level. - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:52:54
               OP mentioned nothing about that study. You should - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:26:30
                    I don't pay any attention to your stances, dan/tim (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:32:26
                         You should have stopped after "attention" (nm) - Sal MU - 4/22 08:33:51
                         and that leads you to make false accusations and misguided - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:33:50
                              what misguided assumptions or false accusations have I made - MrBlueSky MU - 4/22 08:38:13
                                   RE: what misguided assumptions or false accusations have I made - dangertim MU - 4/22 08:44:55
     Remember when Fauci recommended people temper - tgr MU - 4/22 07:06:51
          adult life - lqf2b8 MU - 4/22 08:24:48
          Just stop politicizing science(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 07:09:56
               You mean like not reporting that the actual death rate of - hefeweizen MU - 4/22 07:21:46
                    Not sure what ridiculously low means - meatiger MU - 4/22 07:52:57
                    You can’t get the death rate? - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 07:23:18
                         Serology tests have shown that the infection rate is as high - hefeweizen MU - 4/22 07:29:58
                              It’s impressive how you created a controversy to - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 07:32:55
                                   Both sides have extreme stupidity on display. Only one - hefeweizen MU - 4/22 07:36:17
                                        looks like Hannity and company are off the hook - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 07:38:42
                                             Hannity? You watch that sh*t? Hahahaha. What a loon - hefeweizen MU - 4/22 07:39:32
                                   Trump also mentioned remdesivir as a potential drug - Sal MU - 4/22 07:35:29
                                        Because it's not a preventative drug,Sal the stupid. - Macgrantt MU - 4/22 07:59:16
                                             I never said it was (nm) - Sal MU - 4/22 08:00:28
                         Do you realize you just proved his point? (nm) - Sal MU - 4/22 07:25:09
                              I’m confident the simplicity of my point will miss both of - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 07:27:29
                                   No, you're fine with politicizing "science" as long - Sal MU - 4/22 07:29:08
                                        yes - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 07:30:45
     RE: Whiff on hydroxychloroquine - Sal MU - 4/22 07:06:45
          Your first link says it works in primate cells - Da_Haze KC - 4/22 07:35:05
               I'm well aware of what both of the links say (nm) - Sal MU - 4/22 07:35:56
                    Then you are aware your second link - Da_Haze KC - 4/22 07:38:49
                         You struggle with words like "potential" (nm) - Sal MU - 4/22 07:39:53
                              And you struggle with realizing that just because - Da_Haze KC - 4/22 07:43:11
                                   lol I never said any of those things - Sal MU - 4/22 07:45:48
                    RE: I'm well aware of what both of the links say (nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 4/22 07:36:55
                         You don't have to be an infectious disease expert - Sal MU - 4/22 07:39:29
                              Turns out just having the ability to read - Da_Haze KC - 4/22 07:45:23
                                   I'm still waiting for your report from the fall - Sal MU - 4/22 07:46:26




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