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There is zero benefit to citizens of the govt. The govt.

Posted on: February 12, 2020 at 10:51:27 CT

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doesn't create wealth; it takes it. The govt's not even a zero sum operation, it's destructive.

And I don't know how to answer your question about equitable tax collection. Fairness in theft is an odd thing to consider.

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doesn't a VAT tax make more sense to level the playing field - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:05:49

RE: doesn't a VAT tax make more sense to level the playing field - MOCO SON MU - 2/12 10:30:13

domestic made goods have a 15% labor burden put on them - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:33:33

RE: domestic made goods have a 15% labor burden put on them - MOCO SON MU - 2/12 10:37:50

the 15% isn't for the labor force, it goes to the retired - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:41:49

RE: the 15% isn't for the labor force, it goes to the retired - MOCO SON MU - 2/12 11:04:34

the money is still coming in, just from another source - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 11:09:53

RE: the money is still coming in, just from another source - MOCO SON MU - 2/12 11:11:25

people getting SS and Medicare will still get it - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 11:15:54

taxation is theft (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/12 10:27:41

RE: taxation is theft (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 2/12 11:09:43

that sounds like a threat (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/12 13:18:23

then don't buy anything(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:31:45

a really dumb comeback (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:48:20

hey, you have options(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:49:04

If you don't pay taxes, you go to jail (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:42:42

not with VAT, you just starve(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:44:34

So, taxes are an infringement on basic natural rights - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:45:14

did I say they weren't?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:46:13

RE: doesn't a VAT tax make more sense to level the playing field - BH O'bonga MU - 2/12 10:20:06

Hell yeah - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:20:51

RE: Hell yeah - BH O'bonga MU - 2/12 10:27:50

ok, I get it, ideally NO TAXES...now tie your unicorns up - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:19:32

This board isn't Congress. It's a discussion board. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:23:08

people have answered your question - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:22:48

Lol, the liberty lovers aren't going to be happy with you(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/12 10:20:10

Does that make you a liberty hater? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:25:08

No of course not. But the taxation is theft crowd - MrBlueSky MU - 2/12 10:25:39

yeah, and some don't consider taking supplies from - ashtray UF - 2/12 10:30:17

it’s not a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:28:15

As a matter of a fact, it's not (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/12 10:38:43

it is. no one has a right to anyone else’s property (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:49:08

It's one of the three most important problems with the US - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:26:48

I'm not asking for new taxes, I'm replacing 1 system with - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:31:19

no thanks (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:53:16

How does a VAT differ from a tariff? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:32:52

doesn't result in retaliatory actions by the Chinese - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:36:11

Why do we want to replace the "lost income" to the govt? - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:32:33

there is waste, but there is also a benefit to citizens - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:40:41

there is no benefit (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:53:57

I benefit from the road I drove on this morning - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:55:52

the people whose money was stolen did not benefit - pickle MU

- 2/12 11:03:56

so my money wasn't stolen?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 11:08:04

There is zero benefit to citizens of the govt. The govt. - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:51:27

His posting history tells the story. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:25:38

nm - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:22:48

No, the US should be exceptional when it comes to taxes - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:15:27

That's the same idiocy the left proposed re nukes 40 years - hokie VT - 2/12 10:22:51

Try this princess, reread my post and everywhere i wrote - hokie VT - 2/12 10:32:16

Okay done. But it makes no sense at all: - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:35:21

lol perfect (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:55:24

LMAO(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/12 10:40:43

So much for disarming? - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:31:36

what’s idiotic about getting rid of taxation? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:29:46

Well, the US hasn't disarmed. So, aside from the fact that - ummmm MU - 2/12 10:24:24

neither does he (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:29:04

and spend more - meatiger MU - 2/12 10:16:10

How about they eliminate theirs instead? - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/12 10:14:33

Lol, the UK has a VAT tax - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:12:09

I'm saying in lieu of payroll tax(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/12 10:14:11

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:21:02

Both should be eliminated (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:15:12

You are going there - meatiger MU - 2/12 10:13:07

Yup, can't wait. - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:14:34

Go a few days early - meatiger MU - 2/12 10:15:34

Just the Saturday night game - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/12 10:19:09

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/12 10:10:45