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He didn't obstruct congress

Posted on: December 11, 2019 at 15:10:14 CT
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and I'm not sure what you mean by "abuse of power", b/c that is an extremely vague statement. The evidence presented in terms of Ukraine didn't show an abuse of power, b/c there was a failure to prove that Trump specifically wanted to go after Biden for the 2020 election (most of the evidence pointed to Trump being p*ssed about Ukraine's role in the 2016 election).

We could get into a discussion about other potential abuses of power, such as EO's, but there has been no precedent for impeaching a President on that.
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Weaponized the IRS, weaponized the HHS, weaponized the FBI, - Sal MU - 12/11 14:48:38
     RE: Weaponized the IRS, weaponized the HHS, weaponized the FBI, - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/11 16:32:56
     Michelle admits today - Roberts MU - 12/11 15:20:01
     Yet it's people associated with trump and his campaign - playhard NWMSU - 12/11 15:12:05
          for what? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:12:25
               RE: for what? (nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/11 15:18:53
                    The only person part of the admin would have - Sal MU - 12/11 15:19:33
                         What about his campaign?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 12/11 15:22:06
                              That isn't the administration (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:22:45
                                   So you didn't see "and his campaign" in my question? - playhard NWMSU - 12/11 15:30:17
                                        I never mentioned anything about a campaign in the OP - Sal MU - 12/11 15:37:51
     How many indictments and convictions has the most - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:09:01
          lol did you and hammy get the same talking points - Sal MU - 12/11 15:11:23
               Answer the question (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:12:24
                    indictments have nothing to do with it (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:12:39
                         A corrupt admin would likely have some bad actors in - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:15:38
                              so when Trump isn't convicted in the Senate you'll - 90Tiger STL - 12/11 18:08:40
                              that isn't true at all - Sal MU - 12/11 15:28:11
                              not if they were good at getting away with it (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:27:03
     Wow look at Sal being clever wtih words - raskolnikov MU - 12/11 15:06:26
          whose interests did it serve? (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:27:37
          It's even dumber to deny that Obama's did do all of that. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/11 15:11:10
     man you are warped (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 14:56:15
          What did I say that was incorrect? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 14:56:30
               I'm not even going to try and get into this with you dude - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 14:57:39
                    He's turned in to Fester, only he's more consumed by it all - playhard NWMSU - 12/11 15:31:37
                    RE: I'm not even going to try and get into this with you dude - MOCO SON MU - 12/11 15:05:43
                    RE: I'm not even going to try and get into this with you dude - dangertim MU - 12/11 15:01:59
                    You debate like a college girl that knows she's wrong - Mizzou Lou KC - 12/11 15:00:53
                    Translation: I'm going to use a non-sequitur - Calca STL - 12/11 14:59:46
                    This is a common theme with liberals on this board - Sal MU - 12/11 14:59:32
                         lol, geezus christ...that's 100% what you do Sal - playhard NWMSU - 12/11 15:36:05
                              holy projection (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:37:09
                         common theme with you on this board, wild conspiracies - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:01:05
                              the Harowitz report is a conspiracy theory? (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:01:59
                                   so you are still using that? (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:08:38
                                        it was just released (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:14:54
                                        it was just released a few days ago - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:13:14
                                             exactly, the report stated such (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:16:32
                                                  but it did state exactly what Sal is saying (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:17:48
                                                  The report stated what, exactly? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:17:26
                                                       that overall the FBI met the bar required to open the - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:21:54
                                                            They didn’t before the defrauded the court. Nm - justwinbaby KC - 12/11 16:00:53
                                                            they met the bar, even though they had to alter - dangertim MU - 12/11 15:29:05
                                                                 "Hey, that's our bad guys ... total slip up" (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:30:27
                                                            Horowitz didn't say there wasn't bias (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:23:16
                              None of those are conspiracy theories (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:01:20
                                   ok (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:01:48
     Why doesn't the Trump DOJ do something? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 14:53:42
          How ironic. - justwinbaby KC - 12/11 15:19:45
               Yes, that's why Barr has defending his bud Donnie - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:28:06
                    You probably think the Trump campaign wasn't spied on (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:29:56
                         It wasn't illegal (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:31:50
                              but the evidence provided for the warrant application was - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:32:54
                                   They're confusing launching an investigation - Sal MU - 12/11 15:33:28
                                        they must be - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:35:18
                              altering documents to spy on somebody - Sal MU - 12/11 15:32:47
               lol - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:21:37
          Aren't Barr and Durham still investigating? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 14:54:30
               Right up unitl they don't need the shiny new thing(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/11 15:07:12
               can't wait to see all the indictments (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 14:56:35
                    Probably waiting for the investigators at the FISC - Sal MU - 12/11 14:57:13
                         I'm sure there will be lots...(nm) - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 14:57:52
                              I have no idea whether or not there will be - Sal MU - 12/11 15:00:47
                                   But what Trump has done is OK (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:05:09
                                        What are you specifically referring to? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:05:33
                                             Abuse of power, obstruction of justice. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:06:37
                                                  He didn't obstruct congress - Sal MU - 12/11 15:10:14
                                                       I said obstruction of justice. His stonewalling of all - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:12:11
                                                            He didn't obstruct justice - Sal MU - 12/11 15:13:28
                                                                 Yes he did and yes there is. Abundant - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:15:13
                                                                      It has been explained to you plenty of times - Sal MU - 12/11 15:16:57
                                                                           They have decided on McGhan. Why do you lie? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:17:35
                                                                                Apparently it's still pending before another judge - Sal MU - 12/11 15:22:23
                                                                                     Has he complied yet? No (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:26:45
                                                                                          it's still pending lol (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:27:00
                                   lol (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:01:34
                                        So there has to be an indictment for you to believe - Sal MU - 12/11 15:04:22
                                             seems like the most corrupt pres of all time would have - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:08:02
                                                  why do you think that? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 15:12:06
                                                       because its pretty common sense. - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:13:05
                                                            And this is Sal showing his partisan stripes at its finest - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:17:11
                                                                 its kind of funny. Waits for the almighty Horowitz - Hamdogg KC - 12/11 15:18:12
                                                                      but it had lots in it - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:20:31
                                                                           And if that is your reaction that is fine. But to say it - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:21:10
                                                                                altering documents is illegal - Sal MU - 12/11 15:26:20
                                                                                that's why we need to reopen all previous cases for review - ashtray UF - 12/11 15:22:54
                                                                      It showed that the FBI made mistakes but the investigation - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 15:19:48
                                                                           It showed documents were altered to spy on members - Sal MU - 12/11 15:24:15
          isn't that what Barr is working on? (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/11 14:54:14
               Apparently. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 14:54:24
                    this looks bad for the system. real bad - ashtray UF - 12/11 14:57:38
     he was definitely corrupt - ashtray UF - 12/11 14:53:36
          I thought POTUS was allowed to do anything - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:54:56
               Who said that? (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 14:56:15
                    Your boy Donnie (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/11 14:58:14
                         If he did, then I don't agree with that statement (nm) - Sal MU - 12/11 14:58:50
               they aren't allowed - ashtray UF - 12/11 14:56:15
     You misspelled "Will" Everyone knows he was corrupt. He - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/11 14:52:47
     Strong defense begins at home(nm) - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:52:25




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