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it is coercive and a means to deprive people of life,

Posted on: November 8, 2019 at 10:57:05 CT
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liberty, and property.



by Robert LeFevre

In ancient Athens, those who admired the Stoic philosophy of individualism took as their motto: "Abstain from Beans." The phrase had a precise reference. It meant: don't vote. Balloting in Athens occurred by dropping various colored beans into a receptacle.

To vote is to express a preference. There is nothing implicitly evil in choosing. All of us in the ordinary course of our daily lives vote for or against dozens of products and services. When we vote for (buy) any good or service, it follows that by salutary neglect we vote against the goods or services we do not choose to buy. The great merit of market place choosing is that no one is bound by any other person's selection. I may choose Brand X. But this cannot prevent you from choosing Brand Y.

When we place voting into the framework of politics, however, a major change occurs. When we express a preference politically, we do so precisely because we intend to bind others to our will. Political voting is the legal method we have adopted and extolled for obtaining monopolies of power. Political voting is nothing more than the assumption that might makes right. There is a presumption that any decision wanted by the majority of those expressing a preference must be desirable, and the inference even goes so far as to presume that anyone who differs from a majority view is wrong or possibly immoral.

But history shows repeatedly the madness of crowds and the irrationality of majorities. The only conceivable merit relating to majority rule lies in the fact that if we obtain monopoly decisions by this process, we will coerce fewer persons than if we permit the minority to coerce the majority. But implicit in all political voting is the necessity to coerce some so that all are controlled. The direction taken by the control is academic. Control as a monopoly in the hands of the state is basic.

In times such as these, it is incumbent upon free men to reexamine their most cherished, long-established beliefs. There is only one truly moral position for an honest person to take. He must refrain from coercing his fellows. This means that he should refuse to participate in the process by means of which some men obtain power over others. If you value your right to life, liberty, and property, then clearly there is every reason to refrain from participating in a process that is calculated to remove the life, liberty, or property from any other person. Voting is the method for obtaining legal power to coerce others.
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Non-participation is the only moral choice. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 10:40:59
     I reject your premise entirely. - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/8 11:11:32
          That’s not a libertarian position (nm) - pickle MU - 11/8 12:25:19
          Ask him what would happen if everyone thought like him - hokie VT - 11/8 11:26:53
               what do you think would happen (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/8 11:48:32
               You have plenty of answers in this thread. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 11/8 11:30:33
                    No, there have been none. nm - hokie VT - 11/8 11:31:31
                         incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 11/8 12:27:21
                         incorrect (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/8 11:51:32
          I never said anything about virtue. Voting for the lesser - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 11:13:19
     Correct. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 11/8 11:10:03
     Correct (nm) - pickle MU - 11/8 10:55:02
          it is coercive and a means to deprive people of life, - pickle MU - 11/8 10:57:05
          It is immoral to participate in an activity where it is a - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 10:51:50
               That is just pickle level stupid. I know, end government. - hokie VT - 11/8 10:58:17
                    Your socialist tendencies cloud your judgment (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 11:00:29
                         That's your answer? Is it moral to duck a question like a - hokie VT - 11/8 11:03:40
                              It is immoral to participate in an activity where it is a - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 11:04:57
                                   Another disciple of The Idiot. Posting that makes you feel - hokie VT - 11/8 11:08:11
                                        Convince me otherwise instead of name calling (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 11:09:15
                    then people would see the sham that is gvmt - pickle MU - 11/8 10:59:21
                         The masses are starting to wake up - Savage KC - 11/8 11:01:47
                              no (nm) - pickle MU - 11/8 12:26:14
                              Exactly. I said before 2016 that the GOP has to be - hokie VT - 11/8 11:07:23
                                   Yay party! Go team!(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 11:09:50
                                        I just excoriated the GOP. Your idiotic response was to - hokie VT - 11/8 11:13:15
                                             No, you gave them your blueprint for victory (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 11:14:12
                              Exposing all of it? Lol. While doing his part to chip away - hefeweizen MU - 11/8 11:03:38
          Why is morality not a legit reason for not voting? - ummmm MU - 11/8 10:48:52
               Too moral to vote? What does that even mean? If you don't - hokie VT - 11/8 10:55:31
                    It means that person abstaining from voting believes - ummmm MU - 11/8 12:18:18
                    because the intent is to bind others to our will (nm) - pickle MU - 11/8 10:58:00
     I'm not sure if it's the moral choice, but if I have to be - eatatjoes MU - 11/8 10:47:40
          longtime listener, first time caller (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/8 10:57:58
               Most here are longtime callers, next time will be the - eatatjoes MU - 11/8 11:08:59
                    lol (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/8 11:15:19
          But, it's a podcast - Mormad MU - 11/8 10:52:57
               If each of the podcasts ended in legitimate Seppuku - eatatjoes MU - 11/8 10:54:47
                    Is that the Pokemon character?(nm) - Mormad MU - 11/8 10:58:15
                         If so, he wasn't around very long(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 11/8 11:14:40
     It's also less of a headache. - ummmm MU - 11/8 10:42:17
          but you don't get the sticker (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 11/8 10:46:53
               True. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/8 10:49:25
               that's my bit (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/8 10:47:29
                    opps (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 11/8 10:49:22
                         maybe I've thought it more than I've posted it (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/8 11:14:17




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