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His words, not mine

Posted on: November 7, 2019 at 22:48:57 CT
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Benjamin Ferencz: Of course, is my answer. These men would never have been murderers had it not been for the war. These were people who could quote Goethe, who loved Wagner, who were polite--

Lesley Stahl: What turns a man into a savage beast like that?

Benjamin Ferencz: He's not a savage. He's an intelligent, patriotic human being.

Lesley Stahl: He's a savage when he does the murder though.

Benjamin Ferencz: No. He's a patriotic human being acting in the interest of his country, in his mind.

Lesley Stahl: You don't think they turn into savages even for the act?

Benjamin Ferencz: Do you think the man who dropped the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima was a savage? Now I will tell you something very profound, which I have learned after many years. War makes murderers out of otherwise decent people. All wars, and all decent people.
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The Devil Next Door - Mormad MU - 11/7 21:42:50
     Thought the original,"The Devil in Miss Jones" was better - ADelpiero10 MU - 11/7 22:06:34
     Just finished. Really good (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 21:50:39
          Still don't know what to believe(nm) - Mormad MU - 11/7 21:53:32
               I think he probably was Ivan the terrible but was definitely - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 21:59:35
                    There certainly wasn’t any proof worthy of a death sentence - El-ahrairah BAMA - 11/7 22:29:44
                         Definitely not to sentence him to death. That was theater (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 22:32:12
                    Because every individual is responsible for their conduct - TheShoe STL - 11/7 22:08:19
                         You realize our military uses robots to bomb children?(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 11/7 22:24:22
                              I've shot children for this country so carry on - TheShoe STL - 11/7 22:41:27
                                   Lol! (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 11/8 08:11:00
                         A bet there are a **** ton of war criminals (nm) - TigerA MU - 11/7 22:11:12
                              Generally the conduct between soldiers and noncombatants - TheShoe STL - 11/7 22:14:15
                              Almost certainly a whole bunch of Nazis lived in the states - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 22:13:49
                         So basically ****ed either way (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 22:09:28
                              Unfortunately yes - TheShoe STL - 11/7 22:10:23
                                   As the doc points out... some dudes doing their job are - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 22:12:28
                                        Haven't watched it yet - TheShoe STL - 11/7 22:16:08
                                             Ben Ferencz, last surviving Nuremberg prosecutor - Grasslands MU - 11/7 22:32:29
                                                  That's ridiculous - TheShoe STL - 11/7 22:40:21
                                                       His words, not mine - Grasslands MU - 11/7 22:48:57
                                                            And sometimes we are victims of circumstance(nm) - TheShoe STL - 11/7 23:00:28
                                                            I think this seems obvious. (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 22:55:18
                                             Well, easy to say when you’re not in the position. Do - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 22:17:22
                                                  It's not - TheShoe STL - 11/7 22:21:06
                                                       I’m sure you’d do the honorable thing and take the bullet in - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 22:27:39
                                                            There's a reason codes of conduct are created - TheShoe STL - 11/7 22:38:57
                                                       Ok, you lost me there, Shoe - Mormad MU - 11/7 22:23:41
                    Right, very similar to Making a Murderer - Mormad MU - 11/7 22:04:33
                         Agreed there. Of course those people were going to say it - TheWildcat MU - 11/7 22:10:15
                         And the granddaughter.....a 1(nm) - Mormad MU - 11/7 22:06:18




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