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Compared to some at his time

Posted on: November 7, 2019 at 15:08:50 CT

MrBlueSky MU

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he wasn't a prolific slaver. He had 2 slaves most of his adult life.

95% of the founders owned slaves. Let's not act like any of them were saints.

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Reading a book on ben franklin. He said without virtue, - hokie VT - 11/7 14:58:21

Is it virtuous - *M* KC - 11/7 16:01:42

I never claimed to be virtuous. Does that matter? Nm - hokie VT - 11/7 16:55:05

Long a fan of the man's intellect and post office - what is - raskolnikov MU - 11/7 15:27:23

Ben franklin, the first american. It's about 800 pages. I - hokie VT - 11/7 15:33:29

Thanks, sounds like quite an undertaking(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/7 16:32:21

Lol. The post office is one of the greatest boondoggles in - ummmm MU - 11/7 15:30:08

because it's one of the greatest boondoggles in history - ashtray UF - 11/7 15:36:10

Virtue is a subjective term. And even evil men believe they - ummmm MU - 11/7 15:27:14

Happiness is dependent upon how you are made. If you aim to - Freeglider USA - 11/7 15:12:58

Yet Ben was a slave owner and a serial adulterer - Spanky KU - 11/7 15:03:23

Compared to some at his time - MrBlueSky MU - 11/7 15:08:50

I would imagine his 2 slaves thought Ben owned 2 slaves too - Spanky KU - 11/7 15:13:55

He was never married....who cares who he's fu*king? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/7 15:16:32

Franklin was married twice..... - Spanky KU - 11/7 15:19:11

Common law marriage is not marriage (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 11/7 15:19:25

I listed the wrong wives..my bad - Spanky KU - 11/7 15:40:53

Says who? (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/7 15:31:28

living with someone doesn't=married - MrBlueSky MU - 11/7 15:36:37

They were not 'living together' - Spanky KU - 11/7 15:41:35

that’s not up to you to decide - pickle MU

- 11/7 15:40:09

living with someone doesn't = common law marriage - ummmm MU - 11/7 15:37:42

I guess I wonder if Franklin and his lady ever declared - MrBlueSky MU - 11/7 15:40:49

I have no idea. They also don't have to declare it to think - ummmm MU - 11/7 15:42:25

They did - Spanky KU - 11/7 15:42:11

he’s not smart (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/7 15:40:24

And deferential to the state. - ummmm MU - 11/7 15:41:30

lack of consistency - pickle MU

- 11/7 16:12:46

He wasn't preaching it, in this instance anyway, he was - hokie VT - 11/7 15:15:06

Right, the founders were bad guys. Let's be sure to judge - hokie VT - 11/7 15:13:54

go for it - ashtray UF - 11/7 15:18:13

He composed a list of 13 virtues or things people should do. - hokie VT - 11/7 15:07:24

you tell us... - ashtray UF - 11/7 15:00:43

I thought the OP was about trump, but ok... - tigerdb MU - 11/7 15:07:15