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That's not 4 guards though. It's more in line with the

Posted on: October 25, 2019 at 06:07:14 CT

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last 20+ years of college ball with 3 guards and 2 forwards.

Been trying to explain this for a long time, but it's been quite a while since college basketball has been your traditional 1-2-3-4-5. With the scarcity of legitimate centers, a great many teams have been playing with 2 PF's or just 2 forwards of varying size/skill.
For a long time now, college basketball has been
1-2-2-4-4...if you want to use the numbers...or as I have usually labled it PG-Wing-Wing-Forward-Forward.

The 2 and the 3 became the same thing a long time ago in college ball. Nowadays, the 4 has become what the 3 used to be....which prompts you to often say the 3 and the 4 are the same thing. Not really true, but a statement based the overlapping of historical and modern concepts.

This season, Mizzou is going to play a 1-2-2-4-5 where the 4 is outside a lot/mostly like the 3 used to be back in the day. But this is because we have a real center. And if Okongo or Wilmore can walk and talk at the same time, we very well might continue that for a few more years.

Edited by alwaysright at 06:07:29 on 10/25/19

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Okongo has 2 years eligibility - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:10:58

If Tilmon leaves we are going to be pretty lacking in - FIJItiger MU

- 10/24 12:44:52

It already looks like a KA roster....with perhaps +1-3 more - coolbean MU - 10/24 13:39:12

So 13 wins tops? lol! (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 10/24 13:50:07

Perhaps (nm) - coolbean MU - 10/24 14:54:01

Hopefully Tray Jackson can step up and replace some of - tgr MU

- 10/24 12:59:29

I think we are betting alot that Dru Smith will be really - FIJItiger MU

- 10/24 13:07:50

You're undervaluing the current team. - ChuckM MU - 10/24 14:28:09

Gant became a very good player - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 16:55:01

I know, but not at Mizzou which is what is being discussed. - ChuckM MU - 10/24 17:54:32

Gant’s problem was that Mizzou needed him to be great - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 18:07:13

I'm anxious to see what Brown can do from the 4 spot. - ChuckM MU - 10/24 18:13:16

So if you remove the player that many think will be our - tgr MU

- 10/24 13:49:50

Yes, we are assuming the Dru is an impact player - FIJItiger MU

- 10/24 14:34:13

I'd take the unknown freshman over the Gant we had. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 13:55:19

Gant became a really good college player - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 14:00:07

I expect that from them.(nm) - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 14:18:07

You expect them to sign an NBA contract? (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/24 14:34:43

Wow - alwaysright MU - 10/24 13:18:41

RE: Wow - Domino MU

- 10/24 13:21:14

You'll be better off if you disregard any post feej makes - TheWildcat MU

- 10/24 13:01:55

I think Blake Harris has more talent than Geist. But he - tgr MU

- 10/24 13:06:34

He is the better athlete. That is known. I know a lot of - TheWildcat MU

- 10/24 13:13:54

I don't understand how people can't see that. It was obvious - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 13:33:02

Better athlete, not as skilled and didn't work as hard - Domino MU

- 10/24 13:20:44

Some people don’t have a shot no matter how hard they try(nm) - TigerA MU - 10/24 13:27:26

this is true and one look at Blake Harris and that was - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 13:34:13

Geist had a terrible shot when he cane to Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 13:45:46

You're the one who said Pickett had reached his ceiling as a - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 14:22:53

he proved me wrong - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 14:52:52

True, that was sad. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 15:17:48

Disagree. Talent doesn't change, but skill level can - Sigma MU - 10/24 14:03:37

thats fine you can define talent different than me - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 14:13:46

Deuce Bello: talent but no skill. T. Phillips: skill, no tal - Sigma MU - 10/24 14:23:12

To me skill is part of what makes a player talented - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 14:35:56

Jontay has better skills, Tilmon more athleticism. - Sigma MU - 10/24 15:51:55

Jontay has better skills, Tilmon more athleticism. - Sigma MU - 10/24 15:50:19

no Because skill is included in talent - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 15:57:42

Seen a lot of guys with good instincts & no talent. - Sigma MU - 10/24 16:30:04

All that stuff adds together to be the players talent - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 16:39:58

His defintion of talent is moronic (nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 10/24 14:37:14

either Mitch or one of the guards could leave - Jeff85 MU - 10/24 12:22:17

That’s possible - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 12:24:59

not enough minutes for all the guards if healthy - Jeff85 MU - 10/24 12:34:08

That's why some of the younger ones have to accept that - alwaysright MU - 10/25 05:54:36

Where's Tilmon going? Graduating early? (nm) - coolbean MU - 10/24 11:59:28

I think most here believe if Tilmon has a good year - Legendary50 UT - 10/24 12:00:58

Enter the draft....yes, that could happen. Selected...NO. - coolbean MU - 10/24 13:38:15

If he improves enough to be projected as a draft pick that - sprintcar STL - 10/24 12:59:12

He's leaving regardless - Domino MU

- 10/24 12:07:18

What gives that appearance? It certainly hasn't been his - sprintcar STL - 10/24 12:58:20

Do you disagree that he can't make a fine living in Europe - TheWildcat MU

- 10/24 13:02:25

Probably so. Most guys who start on a P5 team could. Just - sprintcar STL - 10/24 13:32:31

He's got a child to support - doughboy MU

- 10/24 14:15:45

I'm not upset with him... - Legendary50 UT - 10/24 12:09:05

Right, and there's only a limited number of years you - Domino MU

- 10/24 12:12:15

Plenty of reasons to stay and get the degree done and - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 12:12:00

I also agree with that component as well.......... - Legendary50 UT - 10/24 12:13:45

Is that good or bad news? - Sigma MU - 10/24 11:16:42

Good - jlbomega MU - 10/24 11:40:00

You can still play through the post - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:20:57

I assume a 4 guard + PF lineup for next year(nm) - LimerNick MU - 10/24 11:17:51

I highly doubt that. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 11:27:48

I could see it - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:33:28

That's not 4 guards though. It's more in line with the - alwaysright MU - 10/25 06:07:14

I would label it - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 09:36:41

Is there a scenario where Jackson or Brown play the - Jeff85 MU - 10/24 12:40:22

Probably I could see both on the floor together - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 12:42:39

I hope they are good enough and physical enough to play - Jeff85 MU - 10/24 12:59:13

If you've paid attention for the last 20+ years, most - alwaysright MU - 10/25 06:11:37

hope they can defend 4 and 5 and also step out and shoot - Jeff85 MU - 10/25 11:42:49

Braun and Mitch might be strong enough by next year. We - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 12:05:53

People still confusing 4-guard with 4-out. - alwaysright MU - 10/24 11:46:41

You could definitely go 4 guards that’s what Haith - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:52:01

I honestly think the plan for CuMa is to give - Legendary50 UT - 10/24 11:58:04

That is the plan. And thus, people have started calling - alwaysright MU - 10/25 05:58:07

Who would get the rebounds and play interior D? - Sigma MU - 10/24 11:20:17

Based on the last couple of years - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:22:49

And if that's the case, only one scholarship open - Domino MU

- 10/24 11:16:18

I heard Bradford wasn’t ready to commit - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:19:21

An emotional reaction to Love & Fletcher rejection. - Sigma MU - 10/24 11:24:00

Yup, pretty sure we wanted him to commit on his visit - Domino MU

- 10/24 11:21:38

life can be rough when you aren’t elite - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:23:54

Whom are you referring too thinking their elite or - Legendary50 UT - 10/24 11:52:42

Bradford (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 12:05:07

Are you speaking of program or recruit? - Sigma MU - 10/24 11:26:28

you could say both, but this was about the recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:30:04

Suck up to luxury(Love), hardball need(Bradford). Not - Sigma MU - 10/24 11:34:02

People seem to think Bradford is an impact player - jlbomega MU - 10/24 11:46:59

Love is worth it - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 11:40:13

The staff evaluated Bradford and Wilmore as equal(nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 10/24 11:38:27

Give me 7'3" if they are equal. (nm) - Uncle John MU

- 10/24 12:07:43

If Mitch is 9th or 1oth in rotation I assume grad - Sigma MU - 10/24 11:18:44

Interesting(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 10/24 11:14:40

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