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Let's break this all down for people who don't really get it

Posted on: September 28, 2019 at 08:04:53 CT
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Historically....
Point Guard - handled the ball, might be a spot up shooter, might be a drive and dish guy, but his #1 job was to get the ball up court and initiate the offense. Ideal example = Stockton, Isaiah Thomas

Shooting Guard - slightly taller. Good Shooter. Adequate ball handler, but maybe not the guy you want one on one against pressure handling the ball. Very good if he is not just a spot up shooter and can generate his own buckets. Example = Jordan

Small Forward - Inside out guy. The term "swing man" used to be used a lot. Not a post player, but has post skills against appropriately sized opponents. Not often a 3 pt shooter, but a good midrange guy. Can drive and score. Handles the ball well enough to help against pressure. But this guy was often closer to a big than he was a guard. Example = Dr. J

Power Forward - Inside player. Can work the block and the high post. Good ones had a reasonable midrange shot. Hopefully a good passer. Example = Malone, Duncan although he pushed modern limits.

Center - Post player. Good ones could play high and low and nobody cared all that much if they could hit a 10 footer, much less a 15 footer. Extreme talents like Kareem could run and do lots of stuff. Although Shaq won more on size than skill, he was a pretty traditional center.


Modern terms......
Point guard - handled the ball, might be a spot up shooter, might be a drive and dish guy, but his #1 job was to get the ball up court and initiate the offense.

Shooting Guard - slightly taller. Good Shooter. Adequate ball handler, but maybe not the guy you want one on one against pressure handling the ball. Very good if he is not just a spot up shooter and can generate his own buckets.

Small Forward - In college, this is now (probably 20 years now) the same thing as the shooting guard. In the NBA it's pretty close as well. Obviously extreme cases like Lebron bend boundaries.

Power Forward - Inside out player. The midrange has extended to the 3 pt line. True post up ability is dying, but these guys can still score inside. Good ones still have some high post skill. Some have said the 3 and the 4 are the same thing. Not quite. The 3 is now the same as the 2 and the 4 is now pretty close to what the 3 USED to be.

Center - Still a post up guy, but the range is steadily increasing.


All of this is clearly about offense. Defensively, guys need to be able to defend their peer and hopefully a guy on either side of them as well.

Edited by alwaysright at 08:05:37 on 09/28/19
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     They used to call guys that could handle, rebound - Sigma MU - 9/27 19:15:56
          Let's break this all down for people who don't really get it - alwaysright MU - 9/28 08:04:53
               I was being facrtious. Cuonzo is only calling them - Sigma MU - 9/28 09:44:36
                    My thoughts exactly on CM thinking - longtimereader MU - 9/28 15:01:32
                         LoL! I wasn't aware of "inside players" post, it confirms - Sigma MU - 9/28 16:05:56
                         we make way too much about positions - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 15:07:05
                              UVA wasn't very athletic, but was skilled, played D - Sigma MU - 9/28 16:13:03
                                   It’s amazing how many times I have had to explain - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 16:22:39
                                        It's like WeWork. An old concept with a new name and - Sigma MU - 9/28 17:31:14
                                             no it’s not innovative - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 17:39:21
                              I understand exacty what they are conveying with that term. - longtimereader MU - 9/28 15:15:49
                                   One of the interesting things about Cuonzo recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 15:38:15
                    There’s a ton of ways to win in basketball - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 10:10:07
                         What has Painter done? Izzo,Wright,Bennett,Roy - Sigma MU - 9/28 11:42:10
                              Wright’s Villanova teams played positionless - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 11:49:22
                                   Wright's team always has a pt. that iniates the offense. - Sigma MU - 9/28 11:58:53
                                        so every coach that uses them as the example of positionless - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 12:02:01
                                             It is a "catch" phrase used for recruiting purposes. See - Sigma MU - 9/28 12:13:45
                                                  It just means you have a bunch of really skilled players - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 12:19:53
                                                       Denny Crum's had several suads with guards best post - Sigma MU - 9/28 12:31:29
                                                            You'll never win - Genco98 MU - 9/28 13:12:07
                                                                 I know. He will even contradict himself to "appear" - Sigma MU - 9/28 14:48:37
                                                            Sure it does. It’s just a reference to a style of play - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 12:45:12
               Mike Anderson's elite 8 fit your Modern term. Guys - Sigma MU - 9/28 09:33:35
               Stewart had similar teams to this out of necessity years ago - Genco98 MU - 9/28 08:14:17
                    Correct the actual back up post was Marlo Finner - longtimereader MU - 9/28 15:13:44
               It’s a little more simple according to Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 08:08:27
                    He’s oversimplifying because most fans are - alwaysright MU - 9/28 15:37:44
                         basketball is simple, we overthink concepts of positions - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/28 15:42:08
          The more of them on a team the better -(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/27 19:31:17
               Don't compound recruiting misses w/ reaches. Spring - Sigma MU - 9/27 23:15:46
                    RE: Don't compound recruiting misses w/ reaches. Spring - HSCoach STL - 9/28 06:38:33
               That's why I wanted Hargrove - Uncle John MU - 9/27 20:38:32
                    RE: That's why I wanted Hargrove - HSCoach STL - 9/27 21:01:51
                    you would have had him, except his mom has health - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/27 20:59:21




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