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didn't you just cite a mainstream media outlet??

Posted on: August 7, 2019 at 08:52:55 CT
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In the 1980s, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defined mass murderer as someone who “kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location” (Krouse and Richardson, 2015). However, the government has never defined mass shooting as a separate category, and there is not yet a universally accepted definition of the term. Thus, media outlets, academic researchers, and law enforcement agencies frequently use different definitions when discussing mass shootings, which can complicate our understanding of mass shooting trends and their relationship to gun policy. The table below provides examples of the variation in the criteria set by five of the most commonly referenced data sources on mass shootings in the United States.

Although there is no official standard for the casualty threshold that distinguishes a mass shooting from other violent crimes involving a firearm, a common approach in the literature is to adopt the FBI’s criteria for a mass murderer and set a casualty threshold of four fatalities by firearm, excluding the offender or offenders (Duwe, ­Kovandzic, and Moody, 2002; Krouse and Richardson, 2015; Gius, 2015c; Fox and Fridel, 2016). However, this categorization is not without controversy. It does not capture incidents in which fewer than four victims were killed but additional victims were injured, and it does not include multiple-victim homicides in which fewer than four fatalities resulted from gunshots but additional fatalities occurred by other means. Additionally, the FBI classification of mass murderer was established primarily with the aim of clarifying criminal profiling procedures, not for the purpose of data collection or statistical ­analysis (Ressler, Burgess, and Douglas, 1988). Thus, many have chosen alternative definitions of casualty thresholds for mass shootings. For instance, Lott and Landes (2000) adopted the definition of two or more injured victims, the Gun Violence Archive (undated-a) defined mass shooting as an incident in which four or more victims (excluding the shooter) are injured or killed, and Mass Shooting Tracker (undated) set a criterion of four or more people injured or killed (including the shooter).
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     Yet you post a link from the MSM as evidence they - SparkyStalcup MU - 8/7 09:00:38
          Add another who clearly does not understand - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 09:01:31
               "Largely ignored" = 4Tigs wants more attention... - glue MU - 8/7 09:04:26
                    I am attempting to make sense of that(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 09:05:11
                         Proven(nm) - glue MU - 8/7 09:05:47
               No. Just because you read news from whatever BS source - SparkyStalcup MU - 8/7 09:04:20
                    The reality is the left cannot use black on black shootings - Emmanuel Goldstein - 8/7 09:07:37
                         Gun deaths are gun deaths. Guns in Chicago largely come - SparkyStalcup MU - 8/7 09:17:03
                    I watched to major news network morning shows over - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 09:06:33
                         So your anecdotal evidence is paramount? Sheesh. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 8/7 09:08:22
                              Scan news sites. Pull up major newspapers over the past - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 09:09:25
                                   sounds like it's kinda a hierarchy of dead - gmmm98 MU - 8/7 09:18:08
                                   News is about sensationalism these days. Terrorist - SparkyStalcup MU - 8/7 09:14:47
                    It's been largely ignored (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:04:56
               I think they do understand but purposefully distort.(nm) - Emmanuel Goldstein - 8/7 09:02:53
                    I guess it is a matter of whether one feels better being - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 09:04:53
     RE: The mass shooting(s) largely ignored by the MSM - MOCO SON MU - 8/7 08:57:47
          You and Sal should meet in person... - Gyro MU - 8/7 08:58:24
     A) Not ignored by media, B) Not "mass shooting" as seen in - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 08:54:11
          not ignored as in they include it in the stats for USA havin - TigerA MU - 8/7 09:01:17
               A bunch of people being shot in a metro is not "mass shootin - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 09:48:22
                    yes it is - Sal KC - 8/7 09:54:00
          It's the very definition of a mass shooting - Sal KC - 8/7 08:54:37
               Going postial is a mass shooting - raskolnikov MU - 8/7 09:50:15
                    Yes they are - Sal KC - 8/7 09:54:22
               RE: It's the very definition of a mass shooting - Ace AU - 8/7 08:56:04
                    mass murder and mass shooting are two different - Sal KC - 8/7 08:57:21
                    That's mass murder, not mass shooting.(nm) - Emmanuel Goldstein - 8/7 08:57:16
                         RE: That's mass murder, not mass shooting.(nm) - Ace AU - 8/7 08:59:42
                              "injured or killed" - Sal KC - 8/7 09:00:37
                                   You're twisting your brain... - Gyro MU - 8/7 09:00:59
                                        What am I wrong about? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:01:55
                                             Everything, but what's new(nm) - Gyro MU - 8/7 09:03:14
                                                  Are you claiming it doesn't fit the definition - Sal KC - 8/7 09:03:41
                         whoops (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 08:58:25
     didn't you just cite a mainstream media outlet?? - Ace AU - 8/7 08:52:55
          Shhhhh...Sal' proving that the media is ignoring shootings - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 08:55:01
               Why is the focus on El Paso? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 08:55:57
                    Why is the focus on El Paso? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 09:01:46
                         Moved below * - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 09:42:58
                         So ... b/c it backs a particular narrative? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:02:29
                              Who called them invaders, Sal? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 09:04:48
                                   Why won't you answer the question? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:05:18
                                        LAUGH...I answered your question Sal - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 09:09:05
                                             Um, no ... you answered with a question - Sal KC - 8/7 09:11:04
                                                  LAUGH yes Sal...I absolutely answered your question - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 09:46:20
                                                       You're just confirming it's b/c of a particular motive - Sal KC - 8/7 09:53:22
                                                            The buffoon had laughed with trumpets at his rally's about - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 10:02:08
                                                            THAT is your point? - gmmm98 MU - 8/7 10:00:24
                    And non-stop on El Paso, dwarfing coverage of Dayton - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 08:56:44
                    I thought the focus was Toledo - Ace AU - 8/7 08:56:28
                    You can't be serious Sal... - Gyro MU - 8/7 08:56:26
                         There's been extensive coverage of all thrre - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 09:06:29
                              lol no there hasn't (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 09:11:19
                                   Yes. There has been Sal - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 10:05:21
                         Sal isn't very smart - mizzoumurfkc KC - 8/7 09:02:56
                              Before the Dayton shooter was revealed - Sal KC - 8/7 09:04:34
                              What gave that away?(nm) - Gyro MU - 8/7 09:04:04
                         Why is El Paso being covered more than Dayton? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 08:58:00
                              Because there were more people killed? - Gyro MU - 8/7 08:59:01
                                   or El Paso backs a particular narrative - Sal KC - 8/7 09:01:36
                                        Next time just lead with this... - Gyro MU - 8/7 09:02:18
          Yes, and I never stated none of the MSM - Sal KC - 8/7 08:54:09
               Many of them appear not to read - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 08:55:09
               RE: Yes, and I never stated none of the MSM - Ace AU - 8/7 08:55:01
     CBS News is not MSM? - glue MU - 8/7 08:51:55
          Do you really not understand his point? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 08:52:46
          "largely ignored" (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 08:52:16
               it is a large media outlet - Ace AU - 8/7 08:54:18
                    I can't be a racist - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 08:55:54
                    yes, it is (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 08:54:54
     "all of the shooting were gang or drug related"... - Gyro MU - 8/7 08:48:21
          So, your logic excuses drug and gang violence? - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 08:50:42
          Why does the motive matter? - Sal KC - 8/7 08:50:31
          Trying to follow. Is it your contention then that the media - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/7 08:49:38
               They’re being ignored by MSM because it reflects poorly... - JayRoy KC - 8/7 08:51:36
               Deeply flawed "logic" (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/7 08:51:13
               Seems that way to me (nm) - Sal KC - 8/7 08:50:46




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