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That case was about redistricting, not apportionment.

Posted on: July 11, 2019 at 15:14:32 CT
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The Alabama argument about 'personhood' is smart and compelling.

"This also violates the “one person, one vote” equal representation standard of the 14th Amendment. According to Alabama, “the gains from including illegal aliens in the apportionment base flow to citizens who live in state with large numbers of illegal aliens.”

Why? Because it means that “in a state in which a large share of the population cannot vote, those who do vote count more than those who live in states where a larger share of the population is made up of American citizens.”

This results in “representational inequality” by devaluing the vote of Alabama’s legal residents. This redistribution of political power “disincentivizes states with large illegal alien populations from cooperating with federal immigration authorities (lest they lose political power that comes with additional representatives and votes in the Electoral College),” Alabama argues.

Moreover, including illegal immigrants in the census “punishes states who (sic) do cooperate with federal immigration authorities in the identification and removal” of illegal aliens, Alabama’s lawsuit states............

....The key to Alabama’s case is the definition of “persons” who should be counted and thus used in apportionment. Alabama argues that the term “persons” was understood at the “time of the founding and when the 14th Amendment was ratified” to mean the “inhabitants” of a state.

Furthermore, “in the public law of the founding era, the term ‘inhabitant’ did not encompass unlawful residents because inhabitance was a legal status that depended upon permission to settle granted by the sovereign nation in which an alien wished to reside,” Alabama argues.

In other words, “persons” does not include individuals who are in the U.S. illegally, without the permission of the federal government.

The “Residence” rule adopted by the Census Bureau for the 2020 census stipulates that foreign nationals will be counted and allocated to the state where their “usual residence” is located, regardless of whether they are legally present.

Alabama argues that the rule is unconstitutional. Moreover, it claims, the rule violates the Administrative Procedure Act because it is “arbitrary and capricious” and exceeds the Census Bureau’s statutory authority...."

Edited by Spanky at 15:15:43 on 07/11/19
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     Read the Constitution (nm) - pickle MU - 7/11 13:12:03
          Read the 14th Amendment - Spanky KU - 7/11 13:20:03
               what about it? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/11 13:24:42
                    read it - Spanky KU - 7/11 13:26:51
                         ok. What about it? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/11 13:45:51
                              Try to understand it - Spanky KU - 7/11 13:54:51
                                   explain it (nm) - pickle MU - 7/11 14:01:24
                                        what words confuse you ? - Spanky KU - 7/11 14:03:02
     I thought roberts needed a better reason - which is - GA Tiger MU - 7/11 13:06:41
     See? That's the way to do it. - Mormad MU - 7/11 12:57:04
          The irony though - DC Jayhawk KU - 7/11 14:15:12
     Uh gee, b/c undocumented immigrants not that big a deal* - raskolnikov MU - 7/11 12:56:15
          If true, then there is NO limit to how many we can have and - GA Tiger MU - 7/11 13:08:42
               You just fly off the deep end huh? - raskolnikov MU - 7/11 14:53:18
                    We've had immigrants for 200 yrs and its TEMPORARY? - GA Tiger MU - 7/11 16:38:35
               how about the gvmt follow the constitution? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/11 13:25:24
          god damn you are an idiot. Did you even read the article?(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 7/11 12:59:07
          You failed to read the article... didn't you? - Spanky KU - 7/11 12:58:05
               It also says in the article - DC Jayhawk KU - 7/11 14:24:13
                    That case was about redistricting, not apportionment. - Spanky KU - 7/11 15:14:32
                         I misread a sentence in the OP. - DC Jayhawk KU - 7/11 16:03:03
                              The Alabama suit is compelling and well reasoned - Spanky KU - 7/11 17:13:26
               If it wasn't in the daily Gmail link he gets, like the one - Floyd Turbo 99 - 7/11 13:00:05




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