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RE: Please explain "wider U.S. gov't" and "other international

Posted on: May 7, 2019 at 16:00:47 CT
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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/world/europe/political-stability-in-the-balance-as-ukraine-ousts-top-prosecutor.html

"The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite.He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power."

Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.”



Steven Pifer is a career foreign service officer who was ambassador to Ukraine under President Bill Clinton and deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs under President George W. Bush. Pifer said "virtually everyone" he knew in the U.S. government and virtually all non-governmental experts on Ukraine "felt that Shokin was not doing his job and should be fired. As far as I can recall, they all concurred with the vice president telling Poroshenko that the U.S. government would not extend the $1 billion loan guarantee to Ukraine until Shokin was removed from office."


Anders Åslund, a resident senior fellow at Atlantic Council, a think tank in Washington, agreed that criticism of Shokin was widespread. Shokin "failed to prosecute anybody of significance, protecting both the Yanukovych circle and the Poroshenko group," Åslund said.



https://twitter.com/dkaleniuk/status/1124042131860013056
Daria Kaleniuk, the executive director of the Anti-Corruption Action Center, a leading anti-corruption voice in Ukraine, tweeted earlier this month that Shokin’s firing was not about protecting the company Hunter Biden was working for. The firing "was obviously not because the prosecutor wanted to investigate Burisma & Zlochevsky," she wrote.
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     foreign entanglements - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/7 15:18:25
          Honestly? Yes. This is why it is important that Trump put - Badird MU - 5/7 15:37:51
               So you object to what Biden did as VP for his son? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 15:38:57
                    Yes.(nm) - Badird MU - 5/7 15:39:34
                         But you see the difference, right? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 15:40:30
                              Between Biden and Trump?(nm) - Badird MU - 5/7 15:41:34
                                   Yes, between the Trump organization - Sal KC - 5/7 15:43:27
                                        There are a few things that you will reject about the Biden - Badird MU - 5/7 15:47:32
                                             Please explain "wider U.S. gov't" and "other international - Sal KC - 5/7 15:53:04
                                                  RE: Please explain "wider U.S. gov't" and "other international - Badird MU - 5/7 16:00:47
                                                       yikes, you should try harder - Sal KC - 5/7 16:03:17
                                                            lol - Badird MU - 5/7 16:07:51
                                                                 Those aren't "proof" of what you're trying to claim - Sal KC - 5/7 16:10:18
                                                                      Yes they are. Here is another link for you: - Badird MU - 5/7 16:13:10
                                                                           You really need to learn to read better - Sal KC - 5/7 16:18:08
                                                                                lol, read it. It makes excellent points as to how this is - Badird MU - 5/7 16:22:14
                                                                                     No it doesn't - Sal KC - 5/7 16:24:03
                                                                                          FFS Sal, you have the reading comprehension of a doorknob - Badird MU - 5/7 16:28:26
                                                                                               btw, your own articles even proves extortion (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 16:31:00
                                                                                               lol you just repeated what I said - Sal KC - 5/7 16:30:25
                                                                                                    It shows that the West thought Shokin didnt prosecute - Badird MU - 5/7 16:32:43
                                                                                                         LMFAO ... "THE WEST" (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 16:33:18
                                                                                                              The US, the UK, the IMF, several think tanks, etc - Badird MU - 5/7 16:40:03
                                                                                                                   There were multiple investigations into Zlochesvsky - Sal KC - 5/7 16:43:53
                                                                                                                        At this stage of the game, unless there is more evidence - Badird MU - 5/7 16:50:55
                                                            Yikes, you will believe whatever you want.(nm) - Badird MU - 5/7 16:05:24
                                                                 As do you since you're buying this - Sal KC - 5/7 16:08:55
                                                                      The Biden thing is almost certainly a deflection.(nm) - Badird MU - 5/7 16:12:31
                                                                           So it's all just a big coincidence? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 16:18:28
                                                                                Coincidence that Trump is using a YEARS OLD story to - Badird MU - 5/7 16:20:00
                                                                                     So it's all just a big coincidence? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 16:23:13
                                                                                          No, its deliberate.(nm) - Badird MU - 5/7 16:23:42
                                                                                               Correct, Biden used the power of the gov't - Sal KC - 5/7 16:24:34
                                                                                                    Thats not likely. Far more facts on my side, and I dont even - Badird MU - 5/7 16:29:04
                                                                                                         So it's all just a big coincidence? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 16:30:37
                                                                                                              You cant honestly be this stupid irl.(nm) - Badird MU - 5/7 16:33:04
                                                                                                                   You are literally saying it's one big - Sal KC - 5/7 16:33:41
     I stopped at 'no evidence of anything illegal.' (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/7 15:00:58
          RE: I stopped at 'no evidence of anything illegal.' (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/7 15:08:07
          RE: If only you had this level of concern for your own side (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/7 14:50:42
               The very beginning of the article even tells us - Sal KC - 5/7 14:52:34
                    RE: The very beginning of the article even tells us - MrBlueSky MU - 5/7 14:54:19
                         but the sale is notable today - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/7 15:30:12
                              It is an idiotic article (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 15:31:43
                              You obviously fail to see Trump as a hypocrite.(nm) - Badird MU - 5/7 15:31:22
                                   I saw Trump as a moral reject, and that's why I didn't vote - MizzouTigerz MU - 5/7 15:42:29
                                   Did you even read the article? (nm) - Sal KC - 5/7 15:31:56
                                        Yes, but what does that have to do with my proclamation that - Badird MU - 5/7 15:33:01
          RE: If only you had this level of concern for your own side (nm) - scan MU - 5/7 14:48:47




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