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When the people founded this country, they agreed

Posted on: February 11, 2019 at 12:58:46 CT
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that those actions cannot be allowed to happen if they want a peaceful nation.

Without an acknowledgement of rights, it would be pickletopia and laws would not matter unless there are consequences for your actions. Hence the "state" using force to keep everyone on the same page.

Rights only matter if everyone agrees, or there is a entity that will use force on the people that disagree with the ideas of the population.

As our issue, I agree that it is creating extraneous laws, but getting rid of the State will not fix our issues.
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     Eliminate the State (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/11 13:03:25
     That's not a message from JG - Calca STL - 2/11 12:56:21
     RE: A message from a self-centered, self-absorbed coward - MOCO SON MU - 2/11 12:32:09
          what? - pickle MU - 2/11 12:38:36
               RE: what? - MOCO SON MU - 2/11 12:54:02
                    No you didn’t - pickle MU - 2/11 12:56:23
                         RE: No you didn’t - MOCO SON MU - 2/11 12:57:18
               Bookmark this one! - Spanky KU - 2/11 12:48:33
          what makes you think there would be no consequences? - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:33:25
               So if the Hell's Angels ride into an Amish town, rape - hokie VT - 2/11 12:39:53
                    These concepts and discussions are beyond your abilities (nm) - pickle MU - 2/11 12:52:02
                    That's a question of enforcement - of what enforcement you - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:43:33
                         And your answer to the hell's angels scenario then is what, - hokie VT - 2/11 15:04:34
                         I would appreciate an answer. Your perspective here - hokie VT - 2/11 13:18:18
                              I'm serious when I say this - you're not capable of - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 13:27:14
                                   Gutless. You can't answer so you blame me for not being - hokie VT - 2/11 13:31:59
                                        you’re incapable, hokie. it’s beyond your understanding - pickle MU - 2/11 13:36:32
                                        I've already answered and you didn't even realize - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 13:35:04
                                             You're a liar and a coward. Nm - hokie VT - 2/11 13:44:46
                                                  you aren’t one to talk - pickle MU - 2/11 13:51:43
                                                  ok (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 13:50:14
     Sometimes my wife has authority over me. - Toger STL - 2/11 12:30:00
          you didn't consent, you were forced(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/11 12:33:56
          pegging?(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/11 12:31:17
     So then on the flip side - tcat KC - 2/11 12:26:48
          Well, rights don’t bind anyone - pickle MU - 2/11 12:41:12
          Natural Rights are foundational to our society - FootballRefugee MU - 2/11 12:38:09
               There is nothing natural about rights. - tcat KC - 2/11 12:50:07
                    it's a philosophical construct - FootballRefugee MU - 2/11 16:40:17
          Natural rights are no lie. While you may violate the - TigerMatt STL - 2/11 12:33:08
               If the other person can do it, then yes. I could lose my - tcat KC - 2/11 12:40:13
               It's odd when folks speak like this - are they saying they - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:34:43
                    Well you do if you have more force then I do. - tcat KC - 2/11 12:42:53
                         They don't matter? If rights don't matter, why are murder, - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:46:49
                              When the people founded this country, they agreed - tcat KC - 2/11 12:58:46
                                   why did the founders agree on that? they - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 13:45:29
                                   No they didn’t. That’s absolute myth (nm) - pickle MU - 2/11 13:28:29
                              straw man - FootballRefugee MU - 2/11 12:51:26
                                   FR, he's not only - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:55:43
          bound to not infringe upon the rights of others - which - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:31:15
               Again, they are ideas. If you don't share the same - tcat KC - 2/11 12:38:49
                    The state doesn't protect rights. It infringes upon them. - TigerMatt STL - 2/11 12:46:47
                         It's protecting these rights - tcat KC - 2/11 13:02:18
                              It isn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 2/11 13:14:53
                         And it uses force or threat of force (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:49:04
     ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/11 12:26:46
          this is another example (nm) - pickle MU - 2/11 12:53:56
          from the man who can't read enough self-congratulatory - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:31:41
               RE: from the man who can't read enough self-congratulatory - raskolnikov MU - 2/11 12:44:00
                    That’s not what he said (nm) - pickle MU - 2/11 12:54:23
                         RE: That’s not what he said (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/11 13:19:32
                              No, he said you’re full of **** - pickle MU - 2/11 13:29:31
                    I find everything you say as self-congratulatory; I will - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:49:50
     how dare you, sir! (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/11 12:07:05




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