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Posted on: February 8, 2019 at 15:00:58 CT
JG MU
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The little adventures in Afghanistan and Iraq have cost us in excess of 5.9 Trillion dollars

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/14/us-has-spent-5point9-trillion-on-middle-east-asia-wars-since-2001-study.html

And what do we have to show for it? Hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, thousands of dead Americans, tens of thousands of Americans physically, emotionally, mentally maimed. For added bonuses we have empowered
Iran and Russia, opened the floodgates for heroin production, all while creating legions of terrorists who rightfully hate America. Fabulous.

Now in some bizarre alternate reality where we had charged and tried Bush and Cheney, (as well as The Clintons and Obama - and of course Trump) for their many crimes, what could we have done with that money? And perhaps saved a little money?

Well we could have provided clean renewable energy
FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD for 5 trillion dollars
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/09/22/we-could-power-the-entire-world-by-harnessing-solar-energy-from-1-of-the-sahara/#35e958bad440

but wait there is more

how about potable water FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD for 150 billion
http://www.fao.org/in-action/agronoticias/detail/en/c/1036789/
but wait there is more

ending world hunger FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD for 267 billion
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/07/how-much-would-it-cost-to-end-hunger/
but wait there is more

how about buying a hooked on phonics packet for the 770 million people who are illiterate since we are flush with
cash @ 200 bucks per head = 154 billion

(illiteracy costs the world economy 1.2 trillion yearly)
https://mic.com/articles/23873/illiteracy-costs-the-global-economy-1-trillion#.qyURwh6Pp

and if providing electricity, water, food and literacy to
world wasn't enough to prevent terrorism then perhaps we should might as well just end world poverty for a mere
187 billion.

https://www.politifact.com/global-news/statements/2017/feb/07/blog-posting/135-billion-enough-end-global-poverty-no/

so useless response to make terrorism worse =5.9 trillion
electricity, water, food, literacy and end of poverty
for the entire planet = 5.758 trillion

We could have saved 142 billion dollars!

But as a conservative I would never advocate just giving this to the world. Republigistians would oppose it because they are petty, selfish, shortsighted lacking in morals and principles. But they would be right. Just handing something to someone without a fair exchange, just ends up making the recipients resentful and criminal
(see welfare). There would have to be a fair exchange.

Isn't it just so Tigerboard that the very self proclaimed Christians that cheered and cheered and still think invading Afghanistan and Iraq were good actions would just positively wretch at the thought of helping the world?

Which brings us to the Green New Deal. All the singing and dancing of yesterday! So Tigerboard.Right now the Green New Deal is nothing more than some goals to discuss. And most of the goals are highly desirable:

 Move America to 100% clean and renewable energy
who could argue against that?
 Create millions of family supporting-wage, union jobs
who would oppose that?
 Ensure a just transition for all communities and workers to
ensure economic security for people and communities that have
historically relied on fossil fuel industries
nothing wrong with that
 Ensure justice and equity for frontline communities by
prioritizing investment, training, climate and community
resiliency, economic and environmental benefits in these
communities. who is not for that?
 Build on FDR’s second bill of rights by guaranteeing:
 A job with a family-sustaining wage, family and medical
leave, vacations, and retirement security
sounds good
 High-quality education, including higher education and
trade schools sounds good
 Clean air and water and access to nature sweet

 Healthy food fantastic
 High-quality health care nice
 Safe, affordable, adequate housing fabulous
 Economic environment free of monopolies laudable
 Economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work and here it falls apart because that is dead wrong.

But as I sagely noted yesterday the devil is in the details. I have seen nothing specific on how these goals are to be accomplished and that is where any debate should be centered. Instead our republigistian friends reject it wholesale because the very thought of a clean safe prosperous America for all is just anathema to them.

I am JG and I speak the truth. This is known.

Edited by JG at 15:03:42 on 02/08/19
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As I was saying - JG MU - 2/8 15:00:58
     It would just create a new system of scams, globalist - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/8 15:46:25
          People would go to war to get what they're getting? - JG MU - 2/8 15:53:02
               So you dawg the alleged Pickletonian Utopia, - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/8 16:00:33
     Playing devil's advocate.... - Ozland Tiger LSU - 2/8 15:41:02
          that is the problem with our accounting system - JG MU - 2/8 15:48:31
               hydroelectric is probably the cheapest. Wind, solar, hydro- - Ozland Tiger LSU - 2/8 15:54:13
                    Probably nuclear - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/8 16:00:44
                    You are living 15 years in the past, man - JG MU - 2/8 15:58:11
                         You had a chance to engage with thoughtful discourse. - Ozland Tiger LSU - 2/8 20:11:09
     Do you also support phasing out airplanes? nm. - MUTGR MU - 2/8 15:36:38
          When it becomes feasible - JG MU - 2/8 15:43:16
               Wonder how much food $14.7 million could have bought - TigerMatt UVA - 2/8 15:48:38
     Do you really believe we could transmit power from the - TigerMatt UVA - 2/8 15:35:19
          That is just an illustration of what is possible - JG MU - 2/8 15:50:10
               So.. just unrealistic B.S. like AOC's plan.(nm) - TigerMatt UVA - 2/8 15:51:08
                    I have seen no plan from AOC - JG MU - 2/8 15:59:07
     Sounds good. Ah yes, it does sound SO good. - GA Tiger MU - 2/8 15:31:13
          Nothing, not one word - JG MU - 2/8 15:34:00
     Elitists want the greater majority of us dead. As soon as - Diamond Dave MU - 2/8 15:29:14
     you're a narcisist - SwampTiger MU - 2/8 15:23:05
          As a point of fact - JG MU - 2/8 15:27:56
               who is my guy - SwampTiger MU - 2/8 15:29:16
                    well for instance - JG MU - 2/8 15:30:54
                         what makes you think he is my guy? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/8 15:32:23
                              You guys are the most borglike sheep - JG MU - 2/8 15:33:19
                                   hurry please, you may not have much time (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/8 15:44:42
                                   Who is his guy? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/8 15:38:08
                                        Just some random handle of some - JG MU - 2/8 15:46:25
                                             what makes you think that? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/8 15:54:09
                                                  experience - JG MU - 2/8 15:59:39
                                                       maybe later :( (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/8 16:05:57
                                                       seriously, I'm curios - SwampTiger MU - 2/8 16:03:47
                                   seriously, help me out here (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/8 15:35:58
     Windmills, solar panels do stop terrorism, illegals. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/8 15:15:08
          You couldn't prove my point any clearer - JG MU - 2/8 15:16:45
     Thanks Alexandria(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/8 15:09:47
          Other than the last one - JG MU - 2/8 15:11:04
          I am in complete control - JG MU - 2/8 15:10:21
               lol "I am in complete control" - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/8 15:27:56
                    Does it help your guilty feelings for a few hours - JG MU - 2/8 15:29:45
                         lol you are a hero among men mullet - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/8 15:51:55
                              Yes - JG MU - 2/8 16:00:03




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