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Two unaddressed issues

Posted on: January 30, 2019 at 16:14:01 CT
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First, climate change models are mathematical models involving a very large number of algebraic equations. In each of those equations the value of a dependent variable is determined by varoius independent variables (or dependent variables whose values are determined in other equations).

Each of the equations is based upon certain assumptions, largely assumptions about the factors that cause the dependent variable to change.

Essentially, the assumptions made determine the outcome. I.e. let me make the assumptions underlying the model and I will produce whatever outcome you want.

The predictive power (accuracy of a mathematical modle can be measured), i.e. see regression analysis. In other words whether or not how fully an equation explains the changes in the dependent variable can be measured.

The climate change community has never adequately explained its modeling and the assumptions that underly its models. Perhaps PBS should do a series or multiple series in which the climate change community is given a chance to explain to the public, not just to their own scientific community its models, the facts, etc.; in other the information that allows it to conclude that climate change is "settled science".

All models require data and the basic data for the climate change models is temperatures. The climate change community has never really explained why it believes the temperatures it's using are correct and are adequate data. I.e. how many temperature measurements are used for a given geographic area, how are micro climate temperatures accounted for by the models, etc.

If the scientific case is overwhelming, the climate change community should fully make its case to the public and let the public make a call.
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Global warming explained. Link - hokie VT - 1/30 15:03:46
     Two unaddressed issues - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/30 16:14:01
          The bigger question is: Is climate changed affected to... - Deputy Dawg MU - 1/30 20:07:14
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               RE: All well and good but it is a simple known fact that - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 18:59:51
                    Dinasaur farts caused the ice age. Mystery solved(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 1/30 19:04:48
          RE: Two unaddressed issues - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 16:33:33
          well said(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/30 16:28:03
               False, but well said(nm) - JG MU - 1/30 17:43:12
     Now go do some research about what happens to life - paleojas MU - 1/30 15:20:35
          RE: Now go do some research about what happens to life - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 16:02:36
               And you have no idea if it will - paleojas MU - 1/30 19:12:52
                    RE: And you have no idea if it will - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 19:17:27
                         Just because you can't comprehend doesn't mean - paleojas MU - 1/31 05:51:24
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               correlation does not equal causation - paleojas MU - 1/30 15:54:33
                    RE: correlation does not equal causation - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 16:06:38
                         Did it happen in 50-100 years? (nm) - Badird MU - 1/30 16:08:56
                              RE: Did it happen in 50-100 years? (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 16:11:09
                                   Oh, well that isnt the same, then, is it? (nm) - Badird MU - 1/30 16:44:42
                                        lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/30 19:20:22
                                        RE: Oh, well that isnt the same, then, is it? (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/30 18:58:34
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               No point. They can shoot elk up there. Ever watch - GA Tiger MU - 1/30 16:33:36




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