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Posted on: October 7, 2018 at 20:14:35 CT
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afghanistan this is the rules of engagement we operated under: we could only engage if and ONLY if collation forces were being targeted. meaning if our aghan counterparts were being attacked we could not intervene. the pols in charge were trying to make it an afghan war, rather than an US/coalition war.

but the insurgents were making it a proxy war. 99% of the insurgents we captured were NOT afghans. they were mostly Pakistani and Chechnyan where i was.

my job while there was to help afghan prosecutors build cases and prosecute insurgents that were captured so instead of just treating them as POW's they would be treated as criminal investigations.

you might be able to imagine how difficult my job was when we, as coalition forces, would have eyes on, via PTDS etc, attacks of Aghan counterparts and we stood by and did nothing.

as an aside i introduced a SEAL team to the Ghazni Provincial Gov and Police Chief and the SEAL team commander told them that they operated under different ROE than everyone else and the Chief got up and kissed him. the SEAL team commander's exact words were, "think of us as your attack dogs".

this was great. but very limited.

in the grander scheme, we let our Aghan allies get slaughtered.

there is no winning in Afghanistan under the current ROE.

just my opinion but afghans respect power. most aghans in my experience don't really care who is leading them just that they are left alone. they will follow whoever is in charge and projecting power.

our ROE has hurt our chances of actually leading in Afghanistan.

it was doomed to fail.

as another aside my military counterpart was given an order to send me to special forces A team and he refused and said he needed me.

two days later the A team I was supposed to be attached to was pretty much slaughtered. only 2 survived. so I got lucky to be somewhat needed in other places. at the time I was ****ed b/c I really wanted to go with the Spec Ops guys. in hindsight i was very thankful that i didn't get what i wished for

Edited by blake1771 at 21:47:48 on 10/07/18
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17 years of failure in Afghanistan - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/7 16:55:10
     The US should have gone through Afghanistan like - Ferg STL - 10/7 19:51:49
          They did... - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/7 20:39:56
          i've mentioned this on here before but when i was in - blake1771 KC - 10/7 20:14:35
               Crazy(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 10/8 01:53:53
               When were you there? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/7 20:49:35
                    2013. and yes there are young boys they call Chai boys - blake1771 KC - 10/7 21:34:48
               Thank you, President Obama! (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/7 20:41:16
          pretty big country and just a tad rough - 90Tiger STL - 10/7 20:11:49
          I agree - FootballRefugee MU - 10/7 19:57:54
     Aren't we mostly just protecting the drug trade now?(nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 10/7 18:04:46
          the oil drug (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/7 19:47:31
     Not Exactly...Terrorists no longer have free reign to attack - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/7 17:25:55
          What terrorists from Afghanistan attacked the US?(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 10/7 17:40:28
               all of them trained in Afghanistan (nm) - Ferg STL - 10/7 19:48:07
                    Actually they trained in the us - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/7 19:53:00
                         are you still typing as though those are the only terrorists - 90Tiger STL - 10/7 20:10:47
               You're too STOOPID to understand... - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/7 17:50:10
               i don't think he implied they are "from" Afghanistan. - 90Tiger STL - 10/7 17:44:13
               he don’t even realize the terrorists were from Saudi Arabia - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/7 17:42:48
                    But the organization was operating from Afghanistan... - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/7 17:49:16
                         Pretty sure the operation was ran in the US. - TigerMatt MU - 10/7 17:54:19
                              Nope...You are wrong (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/7 17:57:52
                                   And this is why the US is in Afghanistan.. - TigerMatt MU - 10/7 17:59:12
                                        No...the fact is that US Intervention made that possible... - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/7 18:03:08
                                             You don't support 'murican blacks getting food stamps - 90Tiger STL - 10/7 19:50:15
                                                  Handing out food stamps is a dead end waste... - DoltfromSTL MU - 10/7 20:43:37
                                                       lmfao. what i consider it to be is an excuse for protecting - 90Tiger STL - 10/7 20:48:15
                                             Lol girls are being educated - El-ahrairah BAMA - 10/7 18:43:04
                    "the"? which terrorists are you referring to - all of them? - 90Tiger STL - 10/7 17:44:55




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