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RE: I cannot be saddened as a citizen of the nation

Posted on: September 11, 2018 at 15:58:15 CT
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A False Proverb Refuted

"The word of the Lord came to me again, saying, “What do you mean when you use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying:

‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes,
And the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

“As I live,” says the Lord God, “you shall no longer use this proverb in Israel.

“Behold, all souls are Mine;
The soul of the father
As well as the soul of the son is Mine;
The soul who sins shall die.
But if a man is just
And does what is lawful and right;
If he has not eaten on the mountains,
Nor lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel,
Nor defiled his neighbor’s wife,
Nor approached a woman during her impurity;
If he has not oppressed anyone,
But has restored to the debtor his pledge;
Has robbed no one by violence,
But has given his bread to the hungry
And covered the naked with clothing;
If he has not exacted usury
Nor taken any increase,
But has withdrawn his hand from iniquity
And executed true judgment between man and man;
If he has walked in My statutes
And kept My judgments faithfully—
He is just;
He shall surely live!”
Says the Lord God.

“If he begets a son who is a robber
Or a shedder of blood,
Who does any of these things
And does none of those duties,
But has eaten on the mountains
Or defiled his neighbor’s wife;
If he has oppressed the poor and needy,
Robbed by violence,
Not restored the pledge,
Lifted his eyes to the idols,
Or committed abomination;
If he has exacted usury
Or taken increase—
Shall he then live?
He shall not live!
If he has done any of these abominations,
He shall surely die;
His blood shall be upon him.

“If, however, he begets a son
Who sees all the sins which his father has done,
And considers but does not do likewise;
Who has not eaten on the mountains,
Nor lifted his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel,
Nor defiled his neighbor’s wife;
Has not oppressed anyone,
Nor withheld a pledge,
Nor robbed by violence,
But has given his bread to the hungry
And covered the naked with clothing;
Who has withdrawn his hand from the poor
And not received usury or increase,
But has executed My judgments
And walked in My statutes—
He shall not die for the iniquity of his father;
He shall surely live!

“As for his father,
Because he cruelly oppressed,
Robbed his brother by violence,
And did what is not good among his people,
Behold, he shall die for his iniquity.

Turn and Live
Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

“But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?

“But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die.

Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies in it, it is because of the iniquity which he has done that he dies. Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness which he committed, and does what is lawful and right, he preserves himself alive. Because he considers and turns away from all the transgressions which he committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, is it not My ways which are fair, and your ways which are not fair?

“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways,” says the Lord God. “Repent, and turn from all your transgressions, so that iniquity will not be your ruin. Cast away from you all the transgressions which you have committed, and get yourselves a new heart and a new spirit. For why should you die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,” says the Lord God. “Therefore turn and live!”"



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Edited by MizzouTigerz at 15:58:59 on 09/11/18
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     I cannot be saddened as a citizen of the nation - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 15:11:16
          RE: I cannot be saddened as a citizen of the nation - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/11 15:58:15
               Is that meant to support my case?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 16:09:45
          U are a gutless coward living a good life defended by others - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/11 15:42:06
               Not so much - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 16:08:12
          Who do you hate more, Israel or the United States? I know - Floyd Turbo MU - 9/11 15:38:44
               Love the Tribe and America - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 15:48:41
                    Tribe? Your cutesy names are always so touching. - Floyd Turbo MU - 9/11 16:26:48
                    "Power and greed of the Zionists"? Profiling, generalizing, - hokie VT - 9/11 15:55:02
                         RE: "Power and greed of the Zionists"? Profiling, generalizing, - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 16:12:39
                              So one rabbi “breaks the law of god” and you stigmatize - hokie VT - 9/11 16:23:53
                    Yes we know - that is what makes liberals so frightening. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/11 15:50:49
                         Ancient wisdom suggests you will reap what you sow(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 15:53:16
                              In that case I'm in for a bumper crop of happiness and - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/11 16:02:39
                                   RE: In that case I'm in for a bumper crop of happiness and - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 16:15:17
                                        What does that have to do with you reaping unlimited - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/11 16:31:54
                                        Can you name 1 or 2 of the regulations Adam Smith thought - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 9/11 16:28:41
               RE: Who do you hate more, Israel or the United States? I know - None**** MU - 9/11 15:41:28
          While admitting we should not have been in conflict since - GA Tiger MU - 9/11 15:28:12
          Do us all a favor and commit suicide - mu7176grad MU - 9/11 15:23:45
               he could at least push a broom - FootballRefugee MU - 9/11 16:09:46
          Nice! A classic! Rivals your “fvck the unborn” post. - Emoji Man MSU - 9/11 15:23:25
               Yeah, go fck your innocent deaths, ha ha(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 15:30:49
                    Repetitive. Covered with “fvck the unborn”. - Emoji Man MSU - 9/11 16:04:45
          If only you were actually anti-war - pickle MU - 9/11 15:18:31
               I don't think that is true - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 15:32:25
                    I know it's true. I've read your posts (nm) - pickle MU - 9/11 16:33:05
          Regrettably your comments are not unAmerican. Certainly, - hokie VT - 9/11 15:17:24
               RE: Regrettably your comments are not unAmerican. Certainly, - raskolnikov MU - 9/11 15:52:27
                    You pretend to be righteous, pious and loving. You are an - hokie VT - 9/11 15:58:32
          your baseless guilt is your own - FootballRefugee MU - 9/11 15:12:38
     Who is singing and dancing - mu7176grad MU - 9/11 14:59:35
          Trump said the Muslims were celebrating in new jersey - tigerden MU - 9/11 15:30:11
               Trump swung and missed on that - mu7176grad MU - 9/11 15:37:39
          JG and Asswipe - Ferg STL - 9/11 15:01:52
     I agree. You're pretty sad. Nm - hokie VT - 9/11 14:53:42
     Mindless pathological liar leaves in disgrace(nm) - MU98 STL - 9/11 14:52:38
     JGCW JGCW JGCW JGCW JGCW - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 9/11 14:51:35
     RE: 3000 victims immediately. 100s maybe thousands - TigerJackSwartz MU - 9/11 14:51:10
          So you found a 5 year old post you didn't like. - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/11 15:09:56
               It's about 9/11 - TigerJackSwartz MU - 9/11 16:13:40




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