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Those two were dramatically more atheltic and skilled than

Posted on: July 17, 2018 at 07:25:28 CT
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Shaq. Shaq's entire game was predicated on his significant weight advantage just pushing guys in.

And those two guys were comparatively less skilled than their contemporary other big men and certainly less than modern big men. They were decent players who became great due to their overwhelming height advantage.
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Tilmon.... - MUTGR MU - 7/16 17:56:04
     Seems like an unnecessary skill set to work on - FIJItiger MU - 7/16 21:54:39
          I agree. If he's in a game having to zig-zag down the lane, - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 7/17 10:33:15
          Ball handling and shooting are unnecessary? - Mizzmi27 MU - 7/17 08:47:23
               I'm fairly certain Martin is trying to develop Tilmon's all - MUTGR MU - 7/17 11:14:33
                    It's called living in a by gone era. - longtimereader MU - 7/17 13:19:20
               He doesn't know. He never played at any level(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:49:08
                    he was on a team in HS, but to describe what he did as - Jeff85 MU - 7/17 10:09:26
                    Didnt realize we were acquaintances that would - FIJItiger MU - 7/17 08:52:35
                         To be fair, the fact you've just learned of "practice the - Mizzmi27 MU - 7/17 08:56:17
                              That's not a logical deduction on your part(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:03:05
                                   k tj, there are multiple possibilities - Mizzmi27 MU - 7/17 09:12:28
                                        I think making it personal is just weird. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:22:50
                                             I did tj, read the thread. - Mizzmi27 MU - 7/17 09:42:43
                                                  I totally get it. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:44:44
                              Or that doing drills aren't meant to imitate game time - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:56:59
                                   It's mind-numbingly dumb.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 7/17 09:00:17
                         You make it apparent. You don't even understand that - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:54:07
          You work on harder stuff so that the - *M* KC - 7/17 08:47:01
               That is a good explanation, I would buy that. Hopefully - FIJItiger MU - 7/17 08:50:01
                    Your hatred of CM rivals KA. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/17 09:06:47
                         Umm...Fiji doesn't hate CM - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:18:08
                              give it time, it's coming - Jeff85 MU - 7/17 10:13:26
                              Cuonzo Martin has a track record that proves following him - Uncle John MU - 7/17 09:26:59
                                   What track record and how does that prevent ANY critique? - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:29:43
                                        He's done fine and will only get better at Missouri. His - Uncle John MU - 7/17 09:37:23
                                             I agree with that. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:38:39
                                                  We already know Fiji gave STRIKE ONE to CM. - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:39:30
                                                       Well, I certainly don't agree with the 3 strikes routine(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:42:24
                                                            That's why. He's not involved enough to critique. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/17 09:51:37
                                                                 So no fan is allowed to critique? - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 13:44:41
                                                                      That was a nice way of saying it was a dumb thing to even - Uncle John MU - 7/17 13:47:33
                                        You still bent about him choosing MU over Illinois?(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:30:38
                                             Nope. Was never upset about that. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:31:35
                                   Teej and feej think CM is mismanaging Tilmon. Lol. - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:28:06
                                        That's not my opinion at all. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:30:39
                                        Thank god they are here - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 09:29:54
                         Agree, I hate neither. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/17 09:13:00
                         Because he ran off the greatest pg of all time in Blake - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:12:05
                    Jesus, how old are you again? How are you just now - Mizzmi27 MU - 7/17 08:54:35
                         aren't you like 15 or 16 years old. I assure you there - FIJItiger MU - 7/17 08:58:00
                              Keep telling yourself that.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 7/17 09:01:01
                         He would probably be shocked to learn Mike Trout - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:56:14
          It is a ball handling and shooting drill. Smh (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:13:53
          Not sure I envision a situation when JT would - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:07:14
               One other point in addition to the one I made below to you - longtimereader MU - 7/17 13:53:45
                    RE: One other point in addition to the one I made below to you - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 21:42:41
               It will be very funny to me, if Tilmon is stretching the - kcnorthside KC - 7/17 09:32:02
                    I could easily be wrong. No one is always right(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:39:05
               Some of this is to get him ready for the NBA - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 08:17:06
                    That's just the wrong approach by CM - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:24:42
                         FYI for clarification and to be properly informed - longtimereader MU - 7/17 13:46:03
                              That does slightly change it for me, then. Thanks(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 20:51:00
                         Thanks for the heads up coach tj - Cosmo MU - 7/17 08:30:42
                              Don't have to be a CBB coach to see that asking JT to - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:32:39
                                   lol you have zero, none, zilch idea if it's a waste of time - Cosmo MU - 7/17 08:38:25
                                        Also, these are summer workouts. Not full fledged - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:43:33
                                        It's my opinion it's a waste of time. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:39:26
                                             Yup, throwing a huge fit here - Cosmo MU - 7/17 08:41:57
                                                  Ranting, cussing, insulting. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:43:31
                                                       God ur such a douche bag lol errbody loling at you(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 08:48:16
                                                            I calmly and logically explained my opinion. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:49:54
                                                                 Cuonzo Martin lol's at you too jabroni(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 08:50:30
                                                                      Well, CM can ask JT to shoot 3's in a game if he wants. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:53:17
                                                                           There are situations where it may have to happen teeji - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 08:55:19
                                                                                Should he practice half court shots then based on the - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:58:46
                                                                                     Many teams will do halfcourt shots before practice ends - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 09:11:24
                                                                                          "You don't spend hours on it, just a few minutes for fun." - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:14:33
                                                                                               Duuurrr Im teej, Im retarded. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:19:10
                                                                                                    The Feej & Teej Show - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 09:23:24
                                                                                               3's aren't a priority, don't recall anyone saying that - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 09:16:35
                                                                                                    CM said it was: - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:20:40
                                                                                                         Nothing in there states Tilmon shooting 3s as a priority. - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:22:16
                                                                                                              Except the actual words posted. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:23:56
                                                                                                                   Oh I have no doubt it is a priority to teach him to play - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:26:44
                                                                                                                        When asked about JT he mentioned shooting from perimeter. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:34:08
                                                                                                                             I say this as calmly as I can.. I think you're a bit of a - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:35:54
                                                                                                                                  Let me know if you want to discuss the actual topic. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:36:47
                                                                                                                                       That's fine. I just wanted you to know I am quite calm(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:37:10
                                                                                                                                            I'd disagree with that conclusion based on - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:40:51
                                                                                                                                                 When someone is making a point so preposterous, the - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:46:31
                                                                                                                                                      Not really. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 20:52:29
                                                                                                                                                      This (nm) - Cosmo MU - 7/17 10:10:08
                                                                                          Nope. He quit with post moves. 3s only now. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 09:13:02
                                                                                               Where did I say he wasn't working on post moves? - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:16:14
                                                                                               lol gotta love it, good entertainment this morning(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 09:14:13
                         He needs to be able to shoot a 15' shot. I don't know that - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:27:56
                    He's a basketball player; it's a basketball drill. - tigerdb MU - 7/17 08:22:54
                         Fiji would know if he ever played that it is quite normal - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:24:04
                              No, that is a waste of his time. Hopefully it doesnt - FIJItiger MU - 7/17 08:30:22
                                   Mizzou wants to space teams out - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 08:42:18
                                        That wouldn't space teams out. It would - FIJItiger MU - 7/17 08:45:22
                                             Tilmon able to shoot from 15 feet forces - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 08:49:22
                                                  Would require facing a very poor coach or an - FIJItiger MU - 7/17 08:55:33
                                                       a wide open 15 footer isn’t a bad shot - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 08:58:07
                                                            Teams would've been foolish to let Shaq shoot 15 footers?(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:59:51
                                                                 did Shaq work on that part of his game? - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 09:08:57
                                                                      "a wide open 15 footer isn't a bad shot" - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:11:36
                                                                           If Tilmon makes 50-60% of those shots - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 09:22:31
                                                                                50-60%? Goodness. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:25:12
                                                                                     Tilmon probably took less than 10 of those all year - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 09:34:24
                                                                                          It's not like he's just shooting a few dozen a day. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:35:53
                                                                                               That’s a misquote he’s not taking 1000 3’s a day - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 09:41:49
                                                                                                    Cool. Buttresses my point even more. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:42:58
                                                                                                         If he shows that he has developed a skill in practice - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 09:49:50
                                                                                     I can't even begin to explain how dumb you are sounding - Cosmo MU - 7/17 09:32:59
                                                                                     Great example of why people don't like you right here - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 09:26:45
                                                                           You are being purposefully obtuse and it's why people - Cosmo MU - 7/17 09:14:23
                                                                                You've yet to discuss the topic at all. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:15:35
                                                                                     Again, obtuse - Cosmo MU - 7/17 09:31:19
                                                                                          So your entire goal is to not to discuss the topic and to - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:37:59
                                                                                               Message boarding is serious business, I know - Cosmo MU - 7/17 09:40:11
                                                                                                    I'm not upset and don't take it seriously. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 09:41:58
                                                                                                         From Basketball to life lessons, The Teeji Wheeler story(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 7/17 09:52:01
                                                                                                         But I say you're upset and now you're insulting me - Cosmo MU - 7/17 09:48:34
                                                                                                              And, I didn't insult you. I see you for what you are(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 20:53:31
                                                                                                              You’re welcome.* - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 13:48:26
                                                  What was his shooting % from 15 feet or more this year? - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:51:11
                                             lol (nm) - Cosmo MU - 7/17 08:46:45
                                        No one is saying JT shooting 3's wouldn't be great. - tjwheeler UI - 7/17 08:44:45
          fair point...I've never seen a game with cones on the floor(nm) - tigerdb MU - 7/17 08:04:34
               Lol(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 7/17 08:14:15
          dumb(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 7/17 07:55:26
          Working on ball handling and short range jumpers is - tgr MU - 7/17 07:48:07
          And that's why nobody listens to you when it comes to - alwaysright MU - 7/17 07:22:46
               Some around here still think he has any clue what he's talki - Mizzmi27 MU - 7/17 08:48:08
          RE: Seems like an unnecessary skill set to work on - sYsTiger MU - 7/17 07:21:40
          you know almost zero about the game of basketball - Jeff85 MU - 7/17 06:23:30
          lol (nm) - Cosmo MU - 7/16 22:01:23
     Shaq was measured at the combine as 7'1, 303 lbs - Macgrantt MU - 7/16 21:17:38
          I watched a youtube with Wilt and Bill Russell talking - alstl MU - 7/16 21:45:43
               Those two were dramatically more atheltic and skilled than - alwaysright MU - 7/17 07:25:28
     I'm willing to bet he's gonna be our MVP - JG MU - 7/16 20:25:07
          I don’t see him being more valuable than JP - MoGold MU - 7/16 20:29:19
     It won't matter, if he still commits a foul every 1.2 secs. - go tigers MU - 7/16 19:17:20
          half the calls against him were non-existent(nm) - afleet MU - 7/16 22:31:25
          If we’re not running ball screens 35 feet from the basket. - JohnGalt MU - 7/16 20:40:07
          RE: It won't matter, if he still commits a foul every 1.2 secs. - MOCO SON MU - 7/16 19:23:21
               I see him playing 25 mpg - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/16 19:28:39
                    I 100% agree - longtimereader MU - 7/17 14:03:58
                         If Tilmon has improved both could easily increase - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/17 15:51:29
          nm - go tigers MU - 7/16 19:18:26




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