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You aren't. You are starting with government existing

Posted on: June 5, 2018 at 13:04:54 CT
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rather than how it came to exist. You are assuming legitimate authority. You aren't starting at the beginning.
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A man's natural rights are his own, against the whole world; - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:16:18
     Man doesn't define his borders. That is the sovereign - MizzouTigerz MU - 6/5 11:55:41
          Hallelujah and give 10% of your income to God.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 6/5 12:06:08
     Weren't they killed by a cannibal? - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/5 11:29:01
          Huh? (nm) - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:34:46
     Good quote from a great thinker. (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/5 11:28:15
     Even a masterless man can become an unwilling dictator - Mo Texan MU - 6/5 11:26:06
          RE: Even a masterless man can become an unwilling dictator - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:28:39
     Is putting a convicted murderer or robber in jail a crime? - Spanky KU - 6/5 11:19:55
          Yes - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:23:35
               What if it isn't "within a State/government paradigm"? - Spanky KU - 6/5 11:30:28
                    When there is consent from the murderer - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:34:01
                         so a murderer would have to consent to being jailed? - Spanky KU - 6/5 11:35:06
                              To not be an infringement of natural rights, yes - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:37:12
                                   So a murderer who knew beforehand that the penalty for - Spanky KU - 6/5 11:47:56
                                        You're going back and forth. Stay on track - Kaw-djer - 6/5 13:07:22
                                             You are the one going back and forth - Spanky KU - 6/5 13:28:00
                                   they already consented then - FootballRefugee MU - 6/5 11:43:12
                                        Well, yes - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:45:14
                                             Then it doesn't matter if it is "within a State/government - Spanky KU - 6/5 11:52:06
                                                  ah, implied consent lol (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/5 12:35:58
                                                       As is living within a private community with a HOA - Spanky KU - 6/5 12:43:23
                                                            It depends if the HOA agreement is expressly consented to - ummmm MU - 6/5 12:48:27
                                                                 Have you ever had to sign CC&R's before? - Spanky KU - 6/5 12:55:23
                                                                      This isn't about me. I was asking you to clarify which ones - ummmm MU - 6/5 13:06:24
                                                                           Are you familiar with a HOA and CC&R's? - Spanky KU - 6/5 13:25:41
                                                                                Yes, very familiar. Now, answer my question please. (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/5 13:32:55
                                                                                     HOAs and CC&Rs are implied consent - Spanky KU - 6/5 13:54:38
                                                                                          But you are one person. I hope you realize that by now? (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/5 14:03:32
                                                                                               Then dispute my statement that CC&Rs are not signed - Spanky KU - 6/5 14:19:37
                                                                                                    The obvious example is when an HOA is initially organized - ummmm MU - 6/5 14:25:32
                                                                                                         The CC&R's are then agreed upon by a MAJORITY of homeowners - Spanky KU - 6/5 14:55:44
                                                                                RE: Are you familiar with a HOA and CC&R's? - pickle MU - 6/5 13:28:36
                                                            You're trying to change the subject - Kaw-djer - 6/5 12:47:53
                                                                 They are identical in this scenario - Spanky KU - 6/5 12:56:55
                                                                      They are not identical at all (nm) - Kaw-djer - 6/5 13:00:52
                                                                           Rules to live in a community that you must abide with - Spanky KU - 6/5 13:03:06
                                                                                One is a voluntary consensual relationship - pickle MU - 6/5 13:08:18
                                                                                     ALL are a voluntary consensual relationship - Spanky KU - 6/5 13:26:12
                                                                                          That's incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 6/5 13:27:58
                                                                                               Are you forced to live anywhere? - Spanky KU - 6/5 13:28:49
                                                  This idea of implied consent always perplexes me. - ummmm MU - 6/5 12:02:59
                                                       RE: This idea of implied consent always perplexes me. - Spanky KU - 6/5 12:43:37
                                                  That's incorrect - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:53:39
                                                       We will always disagree on this point - Spanky KU - 6/5 12:45:56
                                                            like a battered wife not leaving her abusing husband - - 90Tiger MU - 6/5 12:50:18
                                                                 No.. not like that at all. - Spanky KU - 6/5 12:57:45
                                                                      what do I have to do with the battered wife? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 6/5 13:45:31
                                                                           I only assume that you beat your wife - Spanky KU - 6/5 13:55:14
                                                            You're not starting at the beginning (nm) - Kaw-djer - 6/5 12:48:53
                                                                 I certainly am - Spanky KU - 6/5 12:58:45
                                                                      You aren't. You are starting with government existing - Kaw-djer - 6/5 13:04:54
                                                                           You are assuming that you have a time machine - Spanky KU - 6/5 13:56:06
                                             now you're lying about what you've said - FootballRefugee MU - 6/5 11:49:31
                                                  He often gets stuck in his delusional fantasies. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/5 12:07:21
                                                  Not at all. You didn't read the thread - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:54:47
               So, if we took up a board collection to kill you, no jail? - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/5 11:29:58
                    murder is a crime; it is an infringement - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:32:58
                         Answer the question! - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/5 11:39:20
                              I'm sure the State would jail the murderer - Kaw-djer - 6/5 11:41:59
                                   and you're still being trolled. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/5 12:28:29
                                        I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt - Kaw-djer - 6/5 12:34:26
     RE: A man's natural rights are his own, against the whole world; - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/5 11:19:19




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