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Pickle's platform has zero to do with our worth. Worth is

Posted on: April 22, 2018 at 12:48:36 CT
MizzouTigerz MU
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Our worth is independent of conduct or belief. Worth is based upon what Almighty God did, and cannot be enhanced nor diminished. God paid for sin "with His own blood". That is the source of our worth. It is infinite/immeasurable, and it doesn't matter whether or not you are a believer (have entrusted your soul to God). He paid the same price for all people.

"Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood."

Forgiveness is a separate matter, and this is where universalists get it wrong. You must distinguish between God paying for the sin of man, and God forgiving the sin of man. Those are not the same thing.

"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

"He who believes in Him" (the ONLY requirement for salvation) "is not condemned; but he who does not believe" (the ONLY condition for going to hell) is condemned already, because he has not (not ever, never) believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God". John 3:18

The Greek word for believes is 'pisteuon', and the word and verse means, in context, to entrust your soul to God through Christ. Once you have entrusted your soul to God, you can never again be in a position where you have never entrusted your soul to God.

However,

"blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men" Matt. 12:31 (a.k.a. unbelief in John 3:18 i.e. refusing to accept the gospel, refusing to believe on/entrust your soul to Christ). Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is never forgiven. If you are in the state of having never entrusted your soul to God, you are committing Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

This is one of the most significant evidences of personal relationship with God:

"Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him." You have to read the whole chapter to have a right understanding of 1 John 2, and not just say that because Christ died for the sin of all, all are forgiven/saved. It says later in the chapter that those who falsely claimed to be believers went out, that it might be known that they were never part of the body of believers.

I send no one to hell. Anyone who goes there sends their self there with their personal choice to not entrust their soul to God.

In addition, Romans Chapter 1 says that God sends light to every man, and to the extent they embrace the light, they are given more. So, there is no person on the face of the earth that is not given enough light to lead to salvation. Also, children who do not reach the age of reason, and who do not achieve the ability to chose sin, go to heaven. They are in a state of innocence and as the scripture says of David's son, we believers will see them in heaven.

Edited by MizzouTigerz at 18:41:54 on 04/22/18
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     I think it's awesome - Grasslands MU - 4/21 23:00:02
          That was pretty much Nero the insane Ceasar's response. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 23:05:19
               This is almost like a group of people demonically posessed - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/21 23:09:31
                    Some of them are demonically possessed, while most others - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 23:14:53
                         OK fair enough, I coulda worded it better - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/21 23:20:55
                              Exactly. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 23:25:24
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     RE: Police officers are getting assassinated and this scumbag - meatiger MU - 4/21 22:10:21
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          Every single one of your bullshìt arguments exposed as lies - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/22 00:15:23
               RE: Every single one of your bullshìt arguments exposed as lies - meatiger MU - 4/22 00:20:58
                    You didn't even read the article.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/22 00:26:00
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               RE: a cop is six times more likely to be shot by someone black - meatiger MU - 4/21 22:43:34
                    It is another one of the useful idiots being played like a - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/22 01:10:14
                    Learn to pay attention to detail. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 22:47:52
                         still irrelevant - meatiger MU - 4/21 23:01:33
                              Or how can you say, let me remove the speck that is in your - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 23:24:05
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                                             RE: My sister-in-law's mother, whom I knew since I was in the - meatiger MU - 4/22 00:00:22
                                                  Good God in heaven. You double down on your arrogance and - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/22 00:06:40
                                                       Ah yes... - meatiger MU - 4/22 00:09:21
                                                            What is your name - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/22 00:16:37
                                                                 RE: What is your name - meatiger MU - 4/22 00:17:56
                                                                      Does it give yer pathetic life meaning 2 call others bigots? - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/22 00:34:14
                                                                           RE: Does it give yer pathetic life meaning 2 call others bigots? - meatiger MU - 4/22 09:12:35
                                                                      Your failure is complete. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/22 00:32:28
                                                                           Pickle's platform is self ownership, non aggression, - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/22 08:09:21
                                                                                Pickle's platform has zero to do with our worth. Worth is - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/22 12:48:36
                                                                                He's an idiot(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/22 08:14:55
                                                                                     Hey, thanks for proving my point. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/22 08:17:30
                                                                                          You're welcome(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/22 09:17:18
                                                                      MizzouTigerz and Uncle Fester are two of the least - Danny Whizzbang USA - 4/22 00:28:28
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                                                                                LOL - Danny Whizzbang USA - 4/22 07:45:52
                                                            RE: Ah yes... - meatiger MU - 4/22 00:11:36
                              I'm curious. What is it here you are standing for or against - 90Tiger MU - 4/21 23:23:32
                                   RE: I'm curious. What is it here you are standing for or against - meatiger MU - 4/21 23:43:56
                                        You didn't answer the question, and it's a simple one - or - 90Tiger MU - 4/22 08:12:21
                                             RE: You didn't answer the question, and it's a simple one - or - meatiger MU - 4/22 09:14:02
                              You don't get to decide what's relevant. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 23:10:37
                              We oughta start protesting blacks commiting violent crime - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/21 23:06:31
                                   Go ahead - meatiger MU - 4/21 23:12:59
                    Irrelevant my ass, You commit the vast majority of violent - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/21 22:47:43
          Blacks usually bring it on themselves by being stupid - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/21 22:13:30
               RE: Blacks usually bring it on themselves by being stupid - meatiger MU - 4/21 22:16:26
                    And ? Plenty of white kids git shot, Cops too - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/21 22:20:33
                         RE: And ? Plenty of white kids git shot, Cops too - meatiger MU - 4/21 22:22:00
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                                        Why dont you make me leave you enormous P#ssy ? - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/21 22:51:17
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                                   Or all the folks whacked by the Neoconservatives. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/21 22:48:05
                                        RE: Or all the folks whacked by the Neoconservatives. - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/22 00:50:42
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          RE: Liberal idiots love giving each other awards - Danny Whizzbang USA - 4/21 22:13:23
               So police who save a life and get a certificate & handshake - 615Tiger STL - 4/21 22:17:23
                    You sound like a moron(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 4/21 22:18:05
                         You sure do Danny, But then - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/21 22:37:55
                         You know you are wrong - 615Tiger STL - 4/21 22:18:51
                              LOL(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 4/21 22:19:47
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               Every profession does not give liberal idiots awards. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/21 22:54:29
               Wrong, moron - 615Tiger STL - 4/21 22:14:03
                    Every profession - meatiger MU - 4/21 22:15:02
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                              Damn you are dumb - meatiger MU - 4/21 22:19:27
                                   Thanks - 615Tiger STL - 4/21 22:20:26
                                        RE: Thanks - meatiger MU - 4/21 22:24:44
                                             Not the same though - 615Tiger STL - 4/21 22:29:41
                                                  Have you ever been to a police ceremony - meatiger MU - 4/21 22:32:25
                                                       My God, you are one ignorant bastard. - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/22 00:32:16
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