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Posted on: January 31, 2018 at 13:19:38 CT
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simultaneously claiming that there is no God?

The universe could not create itself out of nothing, of course.

The alternative posited by some, would be a universe that just always existed. But given the laws of thermodynamics a perpetual motion machine cannot exist other than in a perfect vacuum... and heat will always go from hot objects to cooler objects until equilibrium is reached and all objects are the same temperature.

If the universe always existed there would necessarily be an infinite amount of time behind us. It has no beginning after all.

If there is an infinite amount of time behind us then the universe would have run out of energy by now and everything would be in a state of equilibrium, the sun and stars and planets, asteroids, comets, space dust and whatever else is in the universe would all be one, constant temperature by now.

There must necessarily be someone or something outside of the universe that created it & put it into motion.

The earth is currently spinning at almost 1,000 mph, while orbiting the sun at 66,000 mph, and the solar system is orbiting our "standard of rest" within the galaxy at about 43,000 mph, and that subset of our galaxy is orbiting the galaxy at about 483,000 mph & altogether we are traveling at approximately 1.3 million mph!

https://astrosociety.org/edu/publications/tnl/71/howfast.html#2

We could not do that perpetually.
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     Do you think he's wrong? - tcat UMKC - 1/31 12:58:12
          One could also easily argue that capital punishment, wars, - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 13:06:36
               have we actually established that human trafficking has - cnk ATL - 1/31 13:14:34
               In other words, the rejection of God's Law, though - JeffB MU - 1/31 13:07:54
                    apart from God and sin, all of what I listed are violations - hefeweizen MU - 1/31 13:10:43
                         I would posit that capital punishment & high taxes could be - JeffB MU - 1/31 13:23:01
                              theft and murder are never decent, Jeff - pickle MU - 1/31 13:53:20
                                   Check your premises, pickle. They are as twisted as you are(nm) - JeffB MU - 1/31 13:57:31
                                        no, Jeff; check yours. - pickle MU - 1/31 14:06:15
                    theft and murder, Jeff - pickle MU - 1/31 13:10:37
                         How do you explain the existence of the universe while - JeffB MU - 1/31 13:19:38
                              i don't because i don't feel the need to do so - pickle MU - 1/31 14:07:57
                                   The 'fantasy' is your apparent belief that there is no God, - JeffB MU - 2/6 13:51:22
                              why try to explain with mythos that which no one can - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 14:02:28
                                   We define 'God' as that indispensible non-created Creator. - JeffB MU - 2/6 13:47:01
               How can you tie high taxation to an increased demand for - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/31 13:07:35
                    have you paid the high taxes on a sex slave? - NWMizzouFan MU - 1/31 13:10:34
                         Dang it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/31 13:23:36
          RE: Do you think he's wrong? - cnk ATL - 1/31 13:02:04
     Much of the moral decay of American society dates to that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/31 12:55:31
          lol - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 13:00:31
               While I agree with the evils of social and economic policy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/31 13:04:15
                    is there an increase in sex trafficking? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/31 13:48:07
                    you're all about social and economic policy (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 13:08:55
          what moral decay? (nm) - pickle MU - 1/31 12:58:15
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          What does sex trafficking have to do with women burning - MrBlueSky MU - 1/31 12:56:48
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                         I would bet when he thinks of porn - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/31 13:00:21




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