bowed out when I confronted him with the followup:
http://tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=15285411
"Using a computer to transfer funds out of his account into someone else's is certainly no more of a use of force than using that same computer to print a fake document to steal someone's identity."
Do you really think taking money out of your account via hacking is the use of force, but using it to steal someone's identity is not the use of force?
Why did you cheer on Anonymous when they disclosed bank information and it was used to take money from folks working for the government during the Ferguson rioting if you think that was the use of force against people who had not used force against Anonymous or those who hacked their bank accounts?
How can you possibly conclude that deliberately twisting the arms and legs off of innocent unborn human beings in an effort to execute them is not an initiation of force against those who have not themselves initiated force?