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It's not beliefs.

Posted on: December 12, 2017 at 11:07:21 CT
ummmm MU
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It is reason and logic, built from the axiom: each man has a superior right to his own life.

Which you have acknowledged in this thread.

The rest is simple logical deduction.
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If everyone has a Natural Right to their property - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 10:23:33
     Unfortunately, no. - pickle MU - 12/12 10:28:03
          True. But I wonder, if given a choice, if the - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 10:30:27
               jfc you're delusional (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 10:39:32
                    No, that would be you. Since you have - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 11:12:18
                         whatever you need to tell yourself to remain self-congrat - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 11:19:25
                         your post is pure ignorance - pickle MU - 12/12 11:14:33
               LOL. - Evenflow MU - 12/12 10:38:48
               RE: True. But I wonder, if given a choice, if the - sarasotatiger MU - 12/12 10:33:57
               That's a cartoonish understanding of Am. Indian cultures - pickle MU - 12/12 10:31:18
                    Thanks for discussion of the issues involved. - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 10:32:23
                         What issue do you think you were raising? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/12 10:35:42
          I know, I am real broke up about it(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/12 10:28:43
               RE: I know, I am real broke up about it(nm) - FootballRefugee MU - 12/12 10:41:31
               "Manifest Destiny" - pickle MU - 12/12 10:30:05
                    weren't they just putting the property to better use? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 10:52:18
     All of those people are dead. Property rights are not - ummmm MU - 12/12 10:26:52
          RE: All of those people are dead. Property rights are not - sarasotatiger MU - 12/12 10:35:20
               Incorrect, there is but one belief in property rights - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 10:50:49
                    Answer this one question, Rags - pickle MU - 12/12 10:52:34
                         over my life, no not that I believe - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 10:56:17
                              I didn't say that, and the question i was interested in - pickle MU - 12/12 11:07:41
                              RE: over my life, no not that I believe - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:06:22
                                   correct it happens over an arbitrary timeline that you - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:11:40
                                        It's not an arbitrary timeline, but it is also not uniform. - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:15:29
                                             exactly "case by case" as decided by the Church - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:17:29
                                                  RE: exactly "case by case" as decided by the Church - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:21:57
                                                       That works great as long as the two in disagreement - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:25:51
                                                            All human beings have property rights, and their property - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:29:32
                                                                 yes they are subject to your definition of property - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:31:56
                                                                      RE: yes they are subject to your definition of property - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:35:19
                                             I almost wish I knew his name - pickle MU - 12/12 11:17:21
                                                  Yeah, seriously. For a lawyer, he has little to no - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:20:55
                                                       and now let us gather and pray(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:21:39
                                                  I doubt you have many friends/family - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:18:08
               It's true everywhere and at all times (nm) - pickle MU - 12/12 10:37:02
               It is true everywhere where there are humans. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/12 10:36:04
          They have descendants and they believed they - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 10:28:57
               RE: They have descendants and they believed they - sarasotatiger MU - 12/12 10:36:18
               But have they in fact continually used and maintained that - ummmm MU - 12/12 10:30:09
                    who decides? they didn't exactly have a Judge or Jury - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 10:33:05
                         RE: who decides? they didn't exactly have a Judge or Jury - ummmm MU - 12/12 10:35:22
                              The red man believed he was maintaining the land - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 10:49:19
                                   It's not about beliefs. It is about actual use and - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:02:40
                                        right it means actual use and maintenance as you believe - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:03:44
                                             No, it's not my definition. - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:04:39
                                                  sorry its the belief handed down to you - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:06:03
                                                       It's not beliefs. - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:07:21
                                                            yes I have acknowledged that I share that belief with you - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:10:29
                                                                 It's not a belief. Is there someone controlling your mind - pickle MU - 12/12 11:12:55
                                                                      there is but one definition - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:14:07
                                                                           laydown (nm) - pickle MU - 12/12 11:15:39
                                                                                This whole religious canard by him is one giant laydown - ummmm MU - 12/12 11:16:15
                                                                                     It is (nm) - pickle MU - 12/12 11:19:37
                                                                                     so it is written, so shall it be(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/12 11:18:26
                                   I don't think you know anything about it - pickle MU - 12/12 10:53:29
                    And none of this is to say that there were no violations - ummmm MU - 12/12 10:31:54
                    Which IMO is one of very questionable merit, certainly - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 10:31:42
     They were conquered. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/12 10:24:32
          It was more like genocide(nm) - TheShoe STL - 12/12 10:26:58
               It was the firewater that got it started. Yet another - Fred G. Sanford USA - 12/12 10:30:42
               That has happened a lot over history when one group - TheWildcat STL - 12/12 10:28:22




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