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Does crime of violence

Posted on: November 22, 2017 at 10:29:32 CT

JG MU

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include any robbery.

My point also includes no possibility of parole.

Having a gun in your house and selling drugs is an absurd extra punishment I agree.

I'd guess these laws are often paroled, not the harsh penalties they ought to be.

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Article by Tigrrrrr illustrates my point about gun control - JG A - 11/22 09:50:28

guns arent a problem moran, people are - Kazoo MU - 11/22 11:34:03

LOL you make my point and call me a moran - JG A - 11/22 11:47:32

tell me how a gun makes people do things - Kazoo MU - 11/22 12:13:23

Strawman nonsequitor from a moran - JG A - 11/22 15:18:15

RE: Article by Tigrrrrr illustrates my point about gun control - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:40:34

mandatory minimums benefit no one but the prison industry - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 10:44:07

it's called chasing your tail and putting on a show for the - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:45:46

But it was already a criminal act in this instance. The issu - JeffB MU

- 11/22 11:13:42

and a way to lock up the scary brown people(nm) - cnk ATL - 11/22 10:47:49

people of colour(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 10:50:28

more accurately scary poor people (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:48:54

you're likely correct - cnk ATL - 11/22 10:51:58

without question (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:53:53

RE: Article by Tigrrrrr illustrates my point about gun control - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:33:14

RE: Article by Tigrrrrr illustrates my point about gun control - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:20:49

Federal law probably wouldn't apply in this case, though. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 11/22 10:36:36

Here is the Missouri law - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 10:40:18

Thanks. Doesn't look as broad or as harsh as the federal law - JeffB MU

- 11/22 10:51:21

Too light, parole almost certain - JG A - 11/22 10:58:13

Those are not legitimate and no one is bound by them. nm. - MUTGR MU - 11/22 10:35:01

Given the context of this thread is current law not - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:37:26

Quit dodging. nm. - MUTGR MU - 11/22 10:38:43

Does crime of violence - JG A - 11/22 10:29:32

I'm guessing they often use those as bargaining chips before - JeffB MU

- 11/22 10:41:12

so when do we start talking about your point about gun - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:31:00

Answer the question - JG A - 11/22 10:32:03

I'm still waiting for your answer - pickle MU

- 11/22 10:59:53

Harsh penalties, no parole - JG A - 11/22 11:01:04

Yeah, that has nothing to do with gun control (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/22 11:19:17

RE: Answer the question - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:33:25

Read Section 4, dope - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:35:44

Bail is $50,000 - Badird MU - 11/22 10:17:02

Doesn’t that = $5,000 paid to the bail bondsman? - Spanky KU - 11/22 10:22:01

RE: Doesn’t that = $5,000 paid to the bail bondsman? - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 11/22 10:35:06

Last fool I bailed out it was 10% - JG A - 11/22 10:50:37

It all depends on how the bond is set up - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 11/22 11:19:14

Are you getting a quantity discount? (nm) - JeffB MU

- 11/22 10:52:31

That’s does not seem to be correct - Spanky KU - 11/22 10:48:58

I'm familiar with Missouri and Kansas mostly - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 11/22 11:21:33

Lucky for the perp, his crime was in Maryland - Spanky KU - 11/22 12:07:18

according to the article it's cash only, doesn't state - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 10:26:28

Missouri Bail Bond Law (doesn't address bondsmen paying - JeffB MU

- 11/22 11:51:06

That implies the bondsman (or anyone) has to fork - Spanky KU - 11/22 10:51:29

No in Missouri cash only means cash only - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 10:58:05

Attorneys disagree: Can a bail bondsman pay a cash only bond - JeffB MU

- 11/22 11:35:05

Correct, but the bondsman wouldn't be able to - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 11:37:07

nm - Spanky KU - 11/22 11:56:22

Correct. But if I was a bondsman, I think there would be - JeffB MU

- 11/22 11:39:51

Max a bondsman can charge in Maryland is 10% - Spanky KU - 11/22 13:11:24

But this happened in Maryland Heights, a St. Louis suburb - JeffB MU

- 11/22 23:00:55

Read my post again and see where we disagree - Spanky KU - 11/22 11:18:56

But couldn't the bondsman put up the cash as collateral & - JeffB MU

- 11/22 11:08:29

they would have to pay the full 50k in cash - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 11:15:10

But there's no law against it, right? Per Spanky's link - JeffB MU

- 11/22 11:22:10

Thats kinda what I said...there is NO prohibition from - Spanky KU - 11/22 11:18:00

I gotcha, there wouldn't be any prohibition from the judge - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 11:22:33

yup - JG A - 11/22 10:24:34

lol(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 10:27:11

he "dunno" again (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:29:29

but he always knows what he is talking about(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 10:34:26

There are additional penalties for using a gun in the - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 11/22 10:01:08

he "dunno" (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:17:40

They are not enough - JG A - 11/22 10:25:16

OR, they are ineffective. Apply your logic to psych drugs. - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:41:18

What is your point about gun control? (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/22 09:53:50

Proper gun control is all about - Tigrrrr! MU

- 11/22 10:09:36

I mentioned it again in the above post - JG A - 11/22 09:56:30

That isn't an example of gun control - pickle MU

- 11/22 10:03:02

Thats the way to do effective gun control - JG A - 11/22 10:06:11

and since you have no idea what current penalties are, - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:10:56

I agree gun control is a problem. - pickle MU

- 11/22 10:09:45

No kidding. has nothing to do with controlling guns (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:03:36

What are the current penalties for use of a gun in a crim - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 09:57:37

dunno but not enough - JG A - 11/22 10:00:29

you don't know what the current penalties are but - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:03:09

UNlike you I always know what I'm talking about - JG A - 11/22 10:05:09

"dunno" is your version of knowing exactly what you're talki - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:06:40

getter done - JG A - 11/22 10:23:53

RE: getter done - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 10:29:52

My original point includes no possiblility of parole - JG A - 11/22 10:49:04

I missed it, what's "your point about gun control"? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 09:52:52

seek medical help. Oh wait they can't fix stupid - JG A - 11/22 09:53:42

what is your point about gun control? state it (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/22 09:56:14

Explains your posts(nm) - tman KC - 11/22 09:55:12

Cuddle tightly with 90 Tiger, hes about your speed - JG A - 11/22 09:57:08

And above your speed(nm) - tman KC - 11/22 10:06:06

hahahahhaha - JG A - 11/22 10:24:08