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Gyro position on Russia: Obama years vs Trump year

Posted on: October 18, 2017 at 15:26:03 CT
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Obama:

Who flipping cares what the Russians think about anything? All of this talk about them gaining power is nonsense. This is and always has been a second rate power.


It's a joke of a country and for the life of me I have never understood our blind spot towards Russia. Even during the Cold War we were giving them way way too much credit for the amount of missiles they had, the competence of their government and their society and how much capital they had to work with.

And now we're again the lion in the room worried about the hyena.

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Trump:

They can't be trusted and it's always been that way.

You don't know your history. We left them alone for much of the time after the Cold War. It was Bush that unilaterally withdrew from the nuclear treaty and the expansion of NATO, both at times where no action was necessary that set things on their current course.

In other words, action when it's not needed is the culprit. Russia has overstepped, however, shooting down an airliner of innocents, annexing Crimea and ****ing with Ukraine.

Now they are meddling in free elections here and elsewhere. Action needs to be taken or they will step things up. It's the Russian way.

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     Rational thought not acceptable here - mu7176grad MU - 10/18 15:42:06
          What is your response to all the links I sent you? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/18 15:52:01
          No, look just below where... - Gyro MU - 10/18 15:50:58
               RE: No, look just below where... - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 15:54:38
                    You seem extra upset I assumed your wife was ugly... - Gyro MU - 10/18 15:56:32
                         Your need to personalize everything doesn't impact me, - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 16:04:30
                              Has he sent you a raging tirade TBIM yet that - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/18 16:15:22
                              You attack all day... - Gyro MU - 10/18 16:06:56
                                   "point out"? When did you last see my wife, Gyro? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 19:32:21
                                   There's those self-esteem issues again - pickle MU - 10/18 16:09:13
                                        Yep. It would be sad, if it wasn’t so funny.(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/18 16:20:10
                         ^The post of a really stable, dignified, self confident - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/18 16:02:45
                              DFW really? You talk to yourself at night on the Shack... - Gyro MU - 10/18 16:03:53
                                   Thanks for validating this post too, shortcake. Quite a - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/18 16:08:33
          What is rational about believing the govt when they - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 15:47:06
               Hands Up, Dont Shoot(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 10/18 15:48:18
                    Should I assume you think he actually said that and - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 15:53:24
                         huh? just another example of a false narrative. They are - hefeweizen MU - 10/18 16:29:03
                              and i'm far more concerned when govt does it, hef. I - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 19:33:22
     Gyro position on Russia: Obama years vs Trump year - TigerMatt MU - 10/18 15:26:03
          Gyro provides a great lesson in partisanship, ignorance, - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 15:38:16
               He is a legitimate clown. A dime store wannabe. Always been - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/18 15:58:09
                    "Dime Store Wannabe"...oh so wicked, I'm annihilated(nm) - Gyro MU - 10/18 16:00:25
                         On cue to validate my post. Thanks(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/18 16:03:24
          The Russians are being used by the Neocons to justify - Evenflow MU - 10/18 15:29:12
               Anyone saying "neocon" loses credibility instantly... - Gyro MU - 10/18 15:55:21
                    RE: Anyone saying "neocon" loses credibility instantly... - pickle MU - 10/18 15:56:22
                         Quoting Bill Kristol...nice, that's instant credibility LOL(nm) - Gyro MU - 10/18 15:57:58
                              Irving Kristol, his father. Founder of neoconservatism - pickle MU - 10/18 16:05:18
                                   The body of your post is a huge understatement(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 10/18 16:21:10
               and the neocons = R's and D's of the deep state and - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 15:39:02
     What we blindly accept as true? - pickle MU - 10/18 15:16:28
     lol - 90Tiger MU - 10/18 15:02:01
     Sure you do. You blindly accept what your - TigerMatt MU - 10/18 14:58:44
          Nope...if you were around back in the Snowden revelation... - Gyro MU - 10/18 15:01:20
               When did I mention Trump or my stance on him? - TigerMatt MU - 10/18 15:10:03




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