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There's a middle ground between the two extremes.

Posted on: September 5, 2017 at 13:15:17 CT
Zeaux MU
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There are non English speakers, and there are people that can't get jobs under the DACA program.

The survey everyone is taking as the gold standard involved 3,000 respondents, and 71% were in college. This is a survey targeted at undocumented people. 33% of Americans 25 or older have a degree, yet 71% of DACA people are getting one.

I'm guessing the people that were nervous about their status/don't speak English/don't work weren't eager to answer the survey.

I personally think there should be a pathway for people that arrived here under the age of 16. I don't think amnesty or looking the other way is the answer.
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Deporting 800000 taxpayers sounds expensive. - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 12:47:50
     800,000 taxpayers ? LMAO (nm) - Savage MU - 9/5 13:15:01
     What if you let them stay but NO BENEFITS - mu7176grad MU - 9/5 13:12:40
          that's a trick question, libs will say they don't get those. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:16:08
          That is actually how it works, - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:14:17
               You need to see my response above. I anticipated your lie. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:16:36
               WRONG! - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:14:59
     Giving tax returns to illegal immigrants who paid no - MIZ45 MU - 9/5 13:10:02
          Eliminate taxation. Agree? (nm) - pickle MU - 9/5 13:14:49
               Absolutely. (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 9/5 13:28:08
          Can you document where these folks got illegal tax refunds - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:11:49
               Of course - MIZ45 MU - 9/5 13:30:37
               I worked with them! You're my enemy. YOU are the - jonesin - 9/5 13:14:29
     While we pay for education, medication and incarceration. nm - hokie VT - 9/5 13:00:58
          Round them up. House them - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 13:04:09
               Not sure what you're talking about. But - hokie VT - 9/5 13:05:20
                    You have to round them up. - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:07:11
                         It wasn't that difficult - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 13:15:11
                              How is giving a person free transportation to mexico, - hokie VT - 9/5 13:20:34
                                   Really ? - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 13:26:09
                                   Drive people with no jobs, no families in mexico, no homes - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:23:39
                                        Why is it not punishment when grown up mexicans cross - hokie VT - 9/5 13:34:02
                              Using your logic...Since prisons cost so much, we should... - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:16:35
                                   about 75% of them probably - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:22:02
                         False (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:14:12
               Why do you not want our laws enforced? (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:05:08
     Then pass legislation to allow them to stay - Spanky KU - 9/5 13:00:36
     So everyone on DACA works? - Zeaux MWSC - 9/5 12:54:27
          No. There is a shortage of workers in this country to - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 12:56:55
               Workforce participation rate is 62.9%. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:13:24
               No.. there isn't. The actual unemplyment is 8.4% - Spanky KU - 9/5 13:03:31
                    Your dumb facts are not worth debating anymore - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:06:08
                         The I-6 unemplyment rate is 8.4%...That is not MY fact - Spanky KU - 9/5 13:37:43
                         I have questions about your facts... - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:06:59
                              I don't question your facts anymore - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:08:02
                                   I'm making a fool of you... - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:17:51
               Yeah, the country is dying for a lack of unskilled labor. H - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 12:59:14
                    Most DACA folks are not unskilled. They are either - MrBlueSky MU - 9/5 13:02:47
                         What a load of poop - Spanky KU - 9/5 13:16:32
                         "most"? like 51%? that sounds like a miserable rate (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 13:06:25
                         LInk? - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:05:59
                         Source on that one?(nm) - Zeaux MWSC - 9/5 13:04:29
               Big time, we can't find people to work...hell, i wish we - playhard KC - 9/5 12:59:03
                    You should inquire with Full Employment Council - Savage MU - 9/5 13:16:02
               Construction wages have gone up 30% due to a shortage - Zeaux MWSC - 9/5 12:58:46
                    Do you think construction companies - playhard KC - 9/5 13:00:42
                         I think construction companies cut as many corners as they - Zeaux MWSC - 9/5 13:07:10
                    LOL! A biased web site with made up facts... - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:00:21
                         Okay, find one that says there's an issue with less illegals - Zeaux MWSC - 9/5 13:04:51
                              These are not English non-speaking landscape workers... - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:08:53
                                   There's a middle ground between the two extremes. - Zeaux MWSC - 9/5 13:15:17
                    so much for that tax fallacy (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 12:59:45
               False-17% unemployment and underemployment in this age group - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 12:58:06
                    I know not one person that is unemployed or underemployed - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:00:01
                         "a bunch of business people"...Could you please define... - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:03:51
                              Not to you - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:08:44
                                   liar (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:20:05
          it's awesome isn't it? full employment and no cost to the - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 12:56:23
     Utter horseshyte. They can't be children and taxpayers. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 12:53:14
          76% are in the workforce - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 13:01:00
               liar (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:21:01
               You questioned my link, and provided nothing. Worthless. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:08:00
                    Your link was not about DACA - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 13:17:51
                         No, you merely claim it's from NPR, making it worthless. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:22:06
                              OK then - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 13:28:15
                                   You lack reading comprehension. Try again. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:37:12
          BAM! - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 12:55:14
               25 year old children. Children engineers, children teachers - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 13:01:52
                    drug dealers, rapists, murderers, stoners too! - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:31:30
          Their average age is 22 and they make on average $17 an - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 12:55:14
               I pay a shyte ton of taxes I don't benefit from either. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:03:18
                    What the hell are you babbling about. - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 13:13:34
                         Paying, when it's all refunded doesn't count for squat. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/5 13:29:45
               is that an average pay for those working or if you take t - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 12:58:23
               GFY. Hows that ? You Trotsky plebe? You're OUR enemy. - jonesin - 9/5 12:56:49
               WRONG! - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 12:56:35
          ^^^BOOM nm - jonesin - 9/5 12:54:20
     TAX payers? LOLOLLOLLLOLLLLLL - jonesin - 9/5 12:53:01
          Everyone pays taxes (nm) - pickle MU - 9/5 13:05:10
               Yeah, I know Pickle. When they buy a burrito and a coke. nm - jonesin - 9/5 13:17:52
     How do you eat an elephant? - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 12:51:46
     Never mind that, Donald promised his followers this - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 12:50:33
          Or...We could wait for the Courts to rule... - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 12:53:10
               Wow - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 12:55:54
                    liar (nm) - Salty Dog MU - 9/5 13:20:37
          Round them all up, force them to build the wall brick - playhard KC - 9/5 12:52:38
               round them up? - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 12:54:16
                    Round them up, house them, feed them, deport them ha(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 9/5 12:56:49
                         After they build don's worthless wall(nm) - playhard KC - 9/5 13:02:48
     Bounty hunters, give them $1,000 a head - playhard KC - 9/5 12:49:57
          How many citizens are you willing to violate - catbirdseat MU - 9/5 12:52:33
               I'm joking...but could you imagine the number of rednecks - playhard KC - 9/5 12:54:31
     Who cares about the lost tax "revenue" - ummmm MU - 9/5 12:49:52
          And for those not working? those subsiding off of the - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 12:53:55
               Take away their subsidies. (nm) - ummmm MU - 9/5 12:57:34
                    oh, sure, ummmm. good luck with that. and those - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 13:01:39
                         And good luck with deporting "illegals" - ummmm MU - 9/5 13:14:25
                              I don't argue they should, ummmm, just making sure everyone - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 13:44:50
     RE: Deporting 800000 taxpayers sounds expensive. - 90Tiger MU - 9/5 12:49:50




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